▲ 72 ▼ Valve Says The Companies Making RAM Give Them A Price And If They Say No, They ‘Never Talk To Us Again’ (kotaku.com) submitted 2 months ago by squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone [M] to c/ghazi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 comments fedilink hide all child comments If that sounds a lot like a cartel, well, you wouldn't be the first person to point that out
[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 22 points 2 months ago (4 children) How long until valve makes their own ram? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 months ago (1 child) They have nowhere near the scale for that. Also notice that companies that do make their own ram (Samsung) are looking at the same price pressures as everyone else because of the whole “market” thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] itrealgood@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago yeah, you're right, it could be done, but with chip manufacturing it always takes 10 years to get the factories into production mode, and basically many chip manufacturers aren't confident enough yet that the memory shortage will still be a thing by then. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago You can get older process/slower clocked memory right now. But that’s not what you want in a gaming pc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) It may sound unlikely, but valve is nowhere near the size of would need to be for that. Also the fabs that actually make the ram are owned by like 2-3 companies world wide. Everyone just rents time slots in those, booked many years in advance. It costs billions and takes many years to build more of those. The machines used in them are made by exactly one company world wide. Tldr: never permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) are made by exactly I’ve company world wide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago Fixed, thx. permalink fedilink source parent [–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 9 points 2 months ago It would be great if they did, but getting the necessary tech up and running takes time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago Never. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 months ago (1 child) They have nowhere near the scale for that. Also notice that companies that do make their own ram (Samsung) are looking at the same price pressures as everyone else because of the whole “market” thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] itrealgood@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago yeah, you're right, it could be done, but with chip manufacturing it always takes 10 years to get the factories into production mode, and basically many chip manufacturers aren't confident enough yet that the memory shortage will still be a thing by then. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago You can get older process/slower clocked memory right now. But that’s not what you want in a gaming pc. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] itrealgood@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago yeah, you're right, it could be done, but with chip manufacturing it always takes 10 years to get the factories into production mode, and basically many chip manufacturers aren't confident enough yet that the memory shortage will still be a thing by then. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago You can get older process/slower clocked memory right now. But that’s not what you want in a gaming pc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago yeah, you're right, it could be done, but with chip manufacturing it always takes 10 years to get the factories into production mode, and basically many chip manufacturers aren't confident enough yet that the memory shortage will still be a thing by then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago You can get older process/slower clocked memory right now. But that’s not what you want in a gaming pc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) It may sound unlikely, but valve is nowhere near the size of would need to be for that. Also the fabs that actually make the ram are owned by like 2-3 companies world wide. Everyone just rents time slots in those, booked many years in advance. It costs billions and takes many years to build more of those. The machines used in them are made by exactly one company world wide. Tldr: never permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) are made by exactly I’ve company world wide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago Fixed, thx. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) are made by exactly I’ve company world wide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago Fixed, thx. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 9 points 2 months ago It would be great if they did, but getting the necessary tech up and running takes time. permalink fedilink source parent