▲ 342 ▼ TFW you lose a war but they don't just let you pack up and leave (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 months ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/noncredibledefense@sh.itjust.works 23 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://fedia.io/m/politicalmemes@lemmy.world/t/4027949
[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children) I'm pretty sure right now we could just pack up and leave. We're just too stupid to do that. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children) It seems like the USA really wants to GTFO. Trump even admits we'll run out of oil in 4 weeks. It's the bloodthirsty Israelis that won't leave. The Israeli government and its people (NOT just the government) genuinely want the world to end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (2 children) All we'd have to do is pack up and go. Take ALL of our weapons out. Without the USA backing, the Israeli government looses quite a bit of bite. Neither of those things will happen. There is a large spectrum of wants observable from the citizens of Israel. Several large groups of citizens from the USA also want to see the world end and fund settlements they think will help point the heavens in that direction. Silly humans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago Defense contractors don't want to stop selling to Israel. US military doesn't want to lose their big military base there. But yeah Israel doesn't want a peace deal so it violates them immediately everytime permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago In a sort of way, it's like 1914, except Israel is the incompetent Austro-Hungarian Empire trying to get into a war with Serbia and the US is Imperial Germany just getting strung along as the muscle permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago Trump really doesn't want to GTFO when he's called a loser. He needs people to believe he won somehow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) The Israeli government and its people (NOT just the government) genuinely want the world to end. Not really, they "just" want to remove the Iranian regime or at least cripple it to the point where it's no longer a threat. They don't care what happens to the world's oil supply. Either way, I really hope the US pushes through with the peace deal. It'll be better for the world as a whole and might even teach those warmongers a lesson. Edit: What exactly are the downvotes for? If you think I'm defending Israel here I suggest you improve your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) If they get regime change in iran, then they'll just want Lebanon, then Syria, then Egypt, ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Absolutely, their strategy is to be the preeminent and unchallenged power in the region. They'll keep hitting their neighbors whenever they can to keep them down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago We have to find the WMDs in Iran tho. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children) It seems like the USA really wants to GTFO. Trump even admits we'll run out of oil in 4 weeks. It's the bloodthirsty Israelis that won't leave. The Israeli government and its people (NOT just the government) genuinely want the world to end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (2 children) All we'd have to do is pack up and go. Take ALL of our weapons out. Without the USA backing, the Israeli government looses quite a bit of bite. Neither of those things will happen. There is a large spectrum of wants observable from the citizens of Israel. Several large groups of citizens from the USA also want to see the world end and fund settlements they think will help point the heavens in that direction. Silly humans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago Defense contractors don't want to stop selling to Israel. US military doesn't want to lose their big military base there. But yeah Israel doesn't want a peace deal so it violates them immediately everytime permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago In a sort of way, it's like 1914, except Israel is the incompetent Austro-Hungarian Empire trying to get into a war with Serbia and the US is Imperial Germany just getting strung along as the muscle permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago Trump really doesn't want to GTFO when he's called a loser. He needs people to believe he won somehow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) The Israeli government and its people (NOT just the government) genuinely want the world to end. Not really, they "just" want to remove the Iranian regime or at least cripple it to the point where it's no longer a threat. They don't care what happens to the world's oil supply. Either way, I really hope the US pushes through with the peace deal. It'll be better for the world as a whole and might even teach those warmongers a lesson. Edit: What exactly are the downvotes for? If you think I'm defending Israel here I suggest you improve your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) If they get regime change in iran, then they'll just want Lebanon, then Syria, then Egypt, ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Absolutely, their strategy is to be the preeminent and unchallenged power in the region. They'll keep hitting their neighbors whenever they can to keep them down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (2 children) All we'd have to do is pack up and go. Take ALL of our weapons out. Without the USA backing, the Israeli government looses quite a bit of bite. Neither of those things will happen. There is a large spectrum of wants observable from the citizens of Israel. Several large groups of citizens from the USA also want to see the world end and fund settlements they think will help point the heavens in that direction. Silly humans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago Defense contractors don't want to stop selling to Israel. US military doesn't want to lose their big military base there. But yeah Israel doesn't want a peace deal so it violates them immediately everytime permalink fedilink source parent [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago In a sort of way, it's like 1914, except Israel is the incompetent Austro-Hungarian Empire trying to get into a war with Serbia and the US is Imperial Germany just getting strung along as the muscle permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago Defense contractors don't want to stop selling to Israel. US military doesn't want to lose their big military base there. But yeah Israel doesn't want a peace deal so it violates them immediately everytime permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago In a sort of way, it's like 1914, except Israel is the incompetent Austro-Hungarian Empire trying to get into a war with Serbia and the US is Imperial Germany just getting strung along as the muscle permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago Trump really doesn't want to GTFO when he's called a loser. He needs people to believe he won somehow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlueBockser@programming.dev -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) The Israeli government and its people (NOT just the government) genuinely want the world to end. Not really, they "just" want to remove the Iranian regime or at least cripple it to the point where it's no longer a threat. They don't care what happens to the world's oil supply. Either way, I really hope the US pushes through with the peace deal. It'll be better for the world as a whole and might even teach those warmongers a lesson. Edit: What exactly are the downvotes for? If you think I'm defending Israel here I suggest you improve your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) If they get regime change in iran, then they'll just want Lebanon, then Syria, then Egypt, ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Absolutely, their strategy is to be the preeminent and unchallenged power in the region. They'll keep hitting their neighbors whenever they can to keep them down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) If they get regime change in iran, then they'll just want Lebanon, then Syria, then Egypt, ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Absolutely, their strategy is to be the preeminent and unchallenged power in the region. They'll keep hitting their neighbors whenever they can to keep them down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Absolutely, their strategy is to be the preeminent and unchallenged power in the region. They'll keep hitting their neighbors whenever they can to keep them down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago We have to find the WMDs in Iran tho. permalink fedilink source parent
