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Canada wants to join the age verification bandwagon and censor the internet with Bill C-34 (ca.news.yahoo.com)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] 21 points 3 months ago (14 children)

And so what? Many of us left Reddit because it killed 3rd party apps to force us onto its shitty mobile app. Did it burn without us? No, I doubt they even noticed. Does that make our departure meaningless? Also no, we built something better here.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    So it isn't a choice between privacy invasion or watching it burn. It's a choice between privacy invasion and being left behind.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    Left behind? If you've deemed a system to be so necessary that refusing to abandon your privacy at its behest means you are condemned to live in obsolescence, then you're only reinforcing the idea that we must surrender our rights for the benefits of the system.

    I'm old enough to have lived in a world without the internet and if it's going in a direction that demands I surrender my right to privacy then I'll return to a life without the internet. I won't be alone and just like Lemmy I'm confident we'll build an alternative that aligns with our values.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I have serious doubts that returning to a ludite existence is truly feasible anymore. These companies, along with governments, seem intent on making it a necessity to be online and to do so without privacy.

    The CEO of nvidea outright said their plans for the future involve AI agents accessing your financials and PCs being replaced with AI boxes as our interface. If they force AI into enough stuff before the bubble bursts, it won't be a choice. The way the net works will be built for AI, not for users to manually interface with. If the infrastructure is rebuilt for AI, it won't be a choice. With governments all pushing for OS level Id, Microsoft trying to record all user action, the push to ban VPNs, it seems like you will be making that choice sooner than you want.

    I hope it works out for you but anyone who remembers a pre-internet life is middle age now and isn't the target market for emerging tech anymore. If AI proves to be significantly advantageous, not being online to sue it will be like refusing to use computers was to the boomers. You'll be outcompeted and lose track of how the world is changing.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You are missing the most important part - no matter who says what, people are still here.

    We build the web, we make the food, we build houses. That doesn't go away.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Sure but we build them on the orders of whoever signs our paychecks so we can stay alive. People fuck each other over at their jobs every single day by helping companies succeed at their ambitions. Theoretically we have power in numbers but we rarely even actually use that power.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Sounds like you're trying your hardest to convince yourself that it's worth selling your soul for whatever they're offering. If that's the case then they've already won and it's only a matter of time before your freedoms are stripped away and you willfully become a virtual slave for fear of missing out on whatever prosperity is being promised.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    These are the challenges we face, it doesn't serve anything to pretend they don't exist.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    What are you even talking about? If anybody is denying the existence of a challenge, it's you through your insistence that there is no future worth living without the unrelenting integration and consumption of technology.

    Don't get me wrong, I rely on these technologies as much as the next. In fact, as a software engineer, it's my livelihood and I'm going to support any means to keep it aligned with my own values.

    But I also recognize that I am a small fish in a vast ocean and that my most reliable weapon against tyranny is my own free will. If push comes to shove then I can and will simply refuse to follow society into the techno-feudalist hellscape we're moving towards.

    You call it being left behind; I call it liberation.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    TBH this is just how it goes in general I think. A small group of people build something neat, and if it attracts enough people then the corporations and money come in, they attract more people and it all goes to shit, then a small amount of people from that group leave and start a new thing. reddit was the neat little alternative thing once.

    I suspect eventually we'll probably have to build a second internet lol

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Oh I left Reddit because they permabanned me for something that wasn’t even violent and the platform is built specifically to make it hard to appeal and they don’t even give you warning like “take this down or we’ll ban you” you just comment and a few minutes later your account is lost to the ether.

    God I hate that place so much.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    They did you a favor. It happened to me maybe a month ago and I'm not missing it. I was pretty much down to using one sub only by the time it happened, though, so YMMV I suppose.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Yeah the only problem I have is that there are very few posts here and the communities have far fewer people. Reddit isn’t like TikTok how it can be pretty much replaced by IG reels or YT shorts, since it’s really unique with its content and community.

    That said, every Reddit moderator is a fatass with a kink for how their own armpits smell

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