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[–] 7 points 4 months ago (16 children)

No, I didnt't say that. I've said:

No, there is not an antifascist position on their statement. Only a ultracentrist position based on the reaction of their user base/market.

See the original paragraph:

I understand that they would have removed also the sponsorship of a feminist, vegan or antiracist that created discontent in their use base (by being feminist, vegan or antiracist).

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    They have also said that if the user base finds their sponsorship or seeming alignment with any other divisive agenda, they welcome feedback.

    I'm not following their PR engagement, but if anyone feels strongly about them aligning with furbys, they are welcome to feedback.

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  • [+] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)
  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Sure. That's more than many other companies do.

    Proton or any other company doesn't owe anyone anything more than what they're paid for. Everything else is CSR if you like.

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  • [+] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)
  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    I applaud you for holding all the companies you engage with to the highest of your ethical standards.

    I'll be here content with the middle ground.

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  • [+] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    I don't see myself as 'hiding' from facism. We need to stamp it out.

    Now I'm not even sure what we're arguing about.

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  • [+] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    Well then, the answer is clear - vote with your wallet.

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  • [+] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not following your train of thought. What is the appropriate response? How do we remove facism?

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago

    I think you're extremely confused as to what Proton is and the service they offer.

    I also think it's because you're falling (or have fallen) into the tribalist view of "if you're not with us, you're against us, and if you're against them, you're with us".

    Proton is a-political, pro-agenda. Their agenda is "net neutrality, privacy, security". They don't care who makes that happen, and will support anyone who fights for these things.

    They won't take an antifascist position because that would put them on the political spectrum.

    I also understand that - to you - not making that statement already puts them on the political spectrum, in the opposing camp, but that's, again, due to the tribalist views.

    They've praised left-wingers and right-wingers, they've criticised Democrats and Republicans - as long as anyone pushes for their agenda, they will praise them, as long as someone threatens their agenda, they will criticise them. That's all there is to it.

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