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China's AI Model API Call Volume Surpasses US for Six Straight Weeks — MiniMax M3 Breaks Into Top Three Globally (pandaily.com)
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[–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

My point was that there's no reason to expect that the distribution is different outside OpenRouter. Also, companies absolutely do not prefer western models. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9baDOfwUzHQ

In fact, here's an interview from Airbnb CEO plainly saying they prefer Qwen to ChatGPT:

“We’re relying a lot on Alibaba’s Qwen model. It’s very good. It’s also fast and cheap,” he said. “We use OpenAI’s latest models, but we typically don’t use them that much in production because there are faster and cheaper models.”

Cursor's Composer 2 is based of GLM https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47452404

and here's an article from just a few days ago stating that US companies are increasingly using DeepSeek https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/many-us-tech-firms-turning-202000738.html

There's zero evidence for your assertion that Chinese models are overrepresented on OpenRouter. The reality is that these are the models everybody is using right now, and there's a niche market for overpriced American models.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/many-us-tech-firms-turning-202000738.html

    which says

    By this April, DeepSeek’s adoption rate still hovered at 0.1 per cent. For context, market leaders Anthropic and OpenAI dominated the index at 34.4 per cent and 32.3 per cent, respectively. Ramp did not provide the market share percentages for June.

    Thanks for proving my point I guess. Your other links are anecodatal. Composer 2 & 2.5 are built off of Kimi K2.5, not GLM as it says very clearly in your own link. That's not even relevant to the topic but given you don't read your own sources.

    I've made my point: the headline is misleading because it fails to mention it's data from openrouter specifically, for reasons I briefly outlined all of which you dismissed without engaging.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Nowhere have you given any explanation for why you believe OpenRouter wouldn't be representative of broader trends. What the links show is that Qwen, Kimi, and other models are in fact being used by American companies. It should be obvious that using open models and APIs that cost a fraction of the cost would be attractive to companies, but clearly that's too fantastical of an idea for you to take seriously. Also love how you latched on to me misremembering GLM instead of Kimi. Really highlights how you've really got no actual point to make here.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I've made at least 5 points, one of which from your own sources all of which you've ignored in favoring of dumbly repeating your line of openrouter being representative of broader trends which I've explained twice why it wouldn't be true. Good day sir

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