▲ 1073 ▼ me_irl (thelemmy.club) submitted 4 months ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/me_irl@lemmy.world 117 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] artyom@piefed.social 17 points 4 months ago (6 children) Equating gang violence with black people is racist as shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ceenote@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (4 children) Admittedly that dog whistle was an assumption I made. He didn't finish his thought. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] artyom@piefed.social -6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children) The point he was making is that the vast majority of violence in America takes place in gang warfare, and if you're not in a gang, it is far less of a personal concern than it might otherwise appear. I know this because it's a common one that these kind of people make all the time. It's a bad point because it basically implies that gang violence doesn't matter. E: downvotes for explanation, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's also false permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago I mean it's pretty true if you don't count suicides and if you know that the police are just a legalized gang. I'd bet good money that gun violence by police is a pretty big chunk of the total. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Sometimes Lemmings don’t read the whole comment and assume your answering a question is the same as if you were personally proselytizing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago Indeed. It's a common dogwhistle the conservative talking heads have entrenched in modern discourse. Obviously, white gangs exist, but the act of mentioning gang violence while talking to a predominantly young, white crowd will water the seed in their mind that the other is the problem. Take a look at any Fox News segment that covers gang violence. Guarantee any mugshots or arrest videos shown during such segments do not show ANY white detainees. It's deliberate. If they ever show a white person arrested, they will absolutely frame the segment differently, and won't utter that phrase. Since the "war on drugs" designed to target minorities is less effective now, they branched out to calling it the war on gang violence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (4 children) Admittedly that dog whistle was an assumption I made. He didn't finish his thought. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] artyom@piefed.social -6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children) The point he was making is that the vast majority of violence in America takes place in gang warfare, and if you're not in a gang, it is far less of a personal concern than it might otherwise appear. I know this because it's a common one that these kind of people make all the time. It's a bad point because it basically implies that gang violence doesn't matter. E: downvotes for explanation, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's also false permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago I mean it's pretty true if you don't count suicides and if you know that the police are just a legalized gang. I'd bet good money that gun violence by police is a pretty big chunk of the total. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Sometimes Lemmings don’t read the whole comment and assume your answering a question is the same as if you were personally proselytizing. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] artyom@piefed.social -6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children) The point he was making is that the vast majority of violence in America takes place in gang warfare, and if you're not in a gang, it is far less of a personal concern than it might otherwise appear. I know this because it's a common one that these kind of people make all the time. It's a bad point because it basically implies that gang violence doesn't matter. E: downvotes for explanation, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's also false permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago I mean it's pretty true if you don't count suicides and if you know that the police are just a legalized gang. I'd bet good money that gun violence by police is a pretty big chunk of the total. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Sometimes Lemmings don’t read the whole comment and assume your answering a question is the same as if you were personally proselytizing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's also false permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago I mean it's pretty true if you don't count suicides and if you know that the police are just a legalized gang. I'd bet good money that gun violence by police is a pretty big chunk of the total. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago I mean it's pretty true if you don't count suicides and if you know that the police are just a legalized gang. I'd bet good money that gun violence by police is a pretty big chunk of the total. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Sometimes Lemmings don’t read the whole comment and assume your answering a question is the same as if you were personally proselytizing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago Indeed. It's a common dogwhistle the conservative talking heads have entrenched in modern discourse. Obviously, white gangs exist, but the act of mentioning gang violence while talking to a predominantly young, white crowd will water the seed in their mind that the other is the problem. Take a look at any Fox News segment that covers gang violence. Guarantee any mugshots or arrest videos shown during such segments do not show ANY white detainees. It's deliberate. If they ever show a white person arrested, they will absolutely frame the segment differently, and won't utter that phrase. Since the "war on drugs" designed to target minorities is less effective now, they branched out to calling it the war on gang violence. permalink fedilink source parent