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Cars are like horses: people will soon realise EVs are just better, claims VW boss (www.autoexpress.co.uk)
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[+] -8 points 3 months ago (21 children)

It’s the waiting 45 minutes to charge that I hate.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    There are newer models that can charge to 80% in 15 min. It will probably take a while until fast chargers are widespread, but this is where things are going.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    That won’t stop battery degradation.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it won’t.

    ICE engines also need oil changes, transmission fluid, headgaskets,belts.

    I agree that modern “it’ll spy on you” car software sucks ass. The actual battery and charging tech is way way better than 2018 though. No one has to stop for 45 minutes.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    don't you just charge overnight most of the time?

    that's what most poeple do

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Yea, would be nice if I had my own house to add a charger to. I rent and have to use communal chargers.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Ok so you bought an electric car knowing full well you were not able to charge it at will at night (and I assume nowhere in your regular daily routine, like at work) and now complain about that?

    I'm from Canada and I hate I bought a giant bikini collection but bikini season is only 1 month here... therefore, bikinis suck!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (6 children)

    Condos generally won’t let you have chargers. HOA hate everyone.

    Not everyone can afford the boomer American dream of detached housing.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    then why buy an electric car when OP knew full well charging was going to be troublesome?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This is a big argument against EV mandates that several U.S. states have proposed. Where the fuck do people in apartments and condos charge?

    The excuses by EV supporters don't cut it either.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Part of the infrastructure funding for EVs was targeted to help landlords and HOAs. Plus my state had landlord incentives similar to those for purchasers. Yes we know those need a kickstart

    The other thing is the timing. None of those mandates were immediate. Most of them were ten years or more, only affecting new cars. So we have a full decade to get chargers in more places and at least another decade where most cars were still ICE: we can do it

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    So we have a full decade to get chargers

    The logical answer here is to make the EV mandate tied to actual infrastructure build-out milestones then. Build the infrastructure then mandate EVs, rather than mandating EVs and hoping that infrastructure gets built out quickly enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Trick question: You need both.

    It’s not realistic to build the infrastructure first, then transition: no one could afford that. It would be a huge waste and a boondoggle.

    However I do think it was well planned: even the Chinese government would be surprised at our planning….. if we had actually followed through.

    In addition to the decades long transition, there was

    • subsidies for car manufacturers to retool and retrain
    • incentives for EV buyers
    • incentives for home charger installers, from consumer to landlord to business
    • infrastructure money to start building out trip chargers along interstates

    So yes, the infrastructure would have grown with the market, more smoothly than the market alone could have. Yes American companies would have solid business advantages in new technologies. Yes, American car companies would still be relevant at that point

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    You can only try. My ex’s HOA did bring chargers up for a vote, but tabled it when they realized how limited the electrical service for common areas was

    While I don’t know whether it would have passed, it’s a step

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