▲ 338 ▼ The AI of Power (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 months ago by Salamence@mander.xyz to c/memes@lemmy.ml 126 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (6 children) The working classes, I don't see the immediate relevance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (5 children) My point is the "revolution" you are gesturing to isn't there. The working class right now doesn't work together, Bernie and people like him are trying to get them together, but you needlessly nitpicking doesn't do one fucking iota to a revolution. Anyway left is better, and no that doesn't include neo libs and their obvious attraction to the right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (4 children) In order to actually organize, it's important to align in an actual working class political party. Bernie is working within the Democrats and not supporting actual movement away from them. I am not "needlessly nitpicking," revolutionary strategy requires building up a revolutionary org like PSL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children) What has the PSL accomplished? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) A lot! They've been spearheading a lot of the anti-war and anti-ICE protests, help run community drives and organize tenant and worker unions, and have been growing a revolutionary organization with trained cadres. This is exactly what a revolutionary org needs to do, organize the working classes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay, DSA supports tenant and worker unions as well, is it bad when DSA does it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago No? My point has never once been that everything the DSA does is a bad thing. The DSA's reformist strategy is a problem, and the org itself lacks discipline due to rejecting democratic centralism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kurwa@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (5 children) My point is the "revolution" you are gesturing to isn't there. The working class right now doesn't work together, Bernie and people like him are trying to get them together, but you needlessly nitpicking doesn't do one fucking iota to a revolution. Anyway left is better, and no that doesn't include neo libs and their obvious attraction to the right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (4 children) In order to actually organize, it's important to align in an actual working class political party. Bernie is working within the Democrats and not supporting actual movement away from them. I am not "needlessly nitpicking," revolutionary strategy requires building up a revolutionary org like PSL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children) What has the PSL accomplished? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) A lot! They've been spearheading a lot of the anti-war and anti-ICE protests, help run community drives and organize tenant and worker unions, and have been growing a revolutionary organization with trained cadres. This is exactly what a revolutionary org needs to do, organize the working classes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay, DSA supports tenant and worker unions as well, is it bad when DSA does it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago No? My point has never once been that everything the DSA does is a bad thing. The DSA's reformist strategy is a problem, and the org itself lacks discipline due to rejecting democratic centralism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (4 children) In order to actually organize, it's important to align in an actual working class political party. Bernie is working within the Democrats and not supporting actual movement away from them. I am not "needlessly nitpicking," revolutionary strategy requires building up a revolutionary org like PSL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children) What has the PSL accomplished? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) A lot! They've been spearheading a lot of the anti-war and anti-ICE protests, help run community drives and organize tenant and worker unions, and have been growing a revolutionary organization with trained cadres. This is exactly what a revolutionary org needs to do, organize the working classes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay, DSA supports tenant and worker unions as well, is it bad when DSA does it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago No? My point has never once been that everything the DSA does is a bad thing. The DSA's reformist strategy is a problem, and the org itself lacks discipline due to rejecting democratic centralism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children) What has the PSL accomplished? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) A lot! They've been spearheading a lot of the anti-war and anti-ICE protests, help run community drives and organize tenant and worker unions, and have been growing a revolutionary organization with trained cadres. This is exactly what a revolutionary org needs to do, organize the working classes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay, DSA supports tenant and worker unions as well, is it bad when DSA does it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago No? My point has never once been that everything the DSA does is a bad thing. The DSA's reformist strategy is a problem, and the org itself lacks discipline due to rejecting democratic centralism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) A lot! They've been spearheading a lot of the anti-war and anti-ICE protests, help run community drives and organize tenant and worker unions, and have been growing a revolutionary organization with trained cadres. This is exactly what a revolutionary org needs to do, organize the working classes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kurwa@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay, DSA supports tenant and worker unions as well, is it bad when DSA does it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago No? My point has never once been that everything the DSA does is a bad thing. The DSA's reformist strategy is a problem, and the org itself lacks discipline due to rejecting democratic centralism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kurwa@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay, DSA supports tenant and worker unions as well, is it bad when DSA does it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago No? My point has never once been that everything the DSA does is a bad thing. The DSA's reformist strategy is a problem, and the org itself lacks discipline due to rejecting democratic centralism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago No? My point has never once been that everything the DSA does is a bad thing. The DSA's reformist strategy is a problem, and the org itself lacks discipline due to rejecting democratic centralism. permalink fedilink source parent