▲ 1387 ▼ Hawaii just entirely removed corporations' power to spend money in politics. This could be a game changer for US democracy. (www.youtube.com) submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Canconda@lemmy.ca to c/upliftingnews@lemmy.world 180 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://www.americanprogress.org/article/addressing-questions-surrounding-hawaiis-bold-move-to-undo-citizens-united/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYSEGhzgHKv/ CONTACT YOUR STATE LEVEL REPRESENTATIVE NOW!! https://www.ncsl.org/legislative-leaders/state-legislative-leaders
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) (will the governor even sign? let's watch) Hard to say. A brief look at Josh Green indicates to me he's a true public servant being Democrat and having spent 2 decades as a physician. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) will the governor even sign? And, how long till the corporations filthy lawyers find 20 loop holes to get around it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) Couple things. When a corporation acts beyond the powers its state has granted, the act is ultra vires: outside the entity’s authority and void as a matter of law. The doctrine is older than the country. article So basically loopholes aren't a free pass if the effective outcome is ultra vires than the action will be void by law. The ones that do work would effectively be zero day exploits that the state legislature could patch. I would also expect state legislatures to uncover some of these loopholes during the process and preemptively amend their bills to prevent them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InputZero@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Loopholes are a free pass when the judicial branch won't enforce the laws that stop it. All of that is great when everyone is acting in good faith, except the government doesn't act in good faith anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 3 months ago Evil wins when good men do nothing. SCOTUS/Judicial branch would not be the ones the ones enforcing the laws the states would. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago not you too ignoring that the video you posted says he signed on 14 may 😭 @KneeTitts@lemmy.world @Mulligrubs@lemmy.world permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) will the governor even sign? And, how long till the corporations filthy lawyers find 20 loop holes to get around it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) Couple things. When a corporation acts beyond the powers its state has granted, the act is ultra vires: outside the entity’s authority and void as a matter of law. The doctrine is older than the country. article So basically loopholes aren't a free pass if the effective outcome is ultra vires than the action will be void by law. The ones that do work would effectively be zero day exploits that the state legislature could patch. I would also expect state legislatures to uncover some of these loopholes during the process and preemptively amend their bills to prevent them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InputZero@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Loopholes are a free pass when the judicial branch won't enforce the laws that stop it. All of that is great when everyone is acting in good faith, except the government doesn't act in good faith anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 3 months ago Evil wins when good men do nothing. SCOTUS/Judicial branch would not be the ones the ones enforcing the laws the states would. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) Couple things. When a corporation acts beyond the powers its state has granted, the act is ultra vires: outside the entity’s authority and void as a matter of law. The doctrine is older than the country. article So basically loopholes aren't a free pass if the effective outcome is ultra vires than the action will be void by law. The ones that do work would effectively be zero day exploits that the state legislature could patch. I would also expect state legislatures to uncover some of these loopholes during the process and preemptively amend their bills to prevent them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InputZero@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Loopholes are a free pass when the judicial branch won't enforce the laws that stop it. All of that is great when everyone is acting in good faith, except the government doesn't act in good faith anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 3 months ago Evil wins when good men do nothing. SCOTUS/Judicial branch would not be the ones the ones enforcing the laws the states would. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Loopholes are a free pass when the judicial branch won't enforce the laws that stop it. All of that is great when everyone is acting in good faith, except the government doesn't act in good faith anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 3 months ago Evil wins when good men do nothing. SCOTUS/Judicial branch would not be the ones the ones enforcing the laws the states would. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 3 months ago Evil wins when good men do nothing. SCOTUS/Judicial branch would not be the ones the ones enforcing the laws the states would. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago not you too ignoring that the video you posted says he signed on 14 may 😭 @KneeTitts@lemmy.world @Mulligrubs@lemmy.world permalink fedilink source parent