General Discussion Thread - Juche 115, Week 21
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That was never a claim I made.
You didn't really understand my point that lack of a bad etymology doesn't make a word not bad so I won't repeat myself.
Again, not my claim. I put slur in quotes and my whole point was that it carries no power in a white supremacist word. So again you're not really arguing against anything I said. These etymology lessons are great but irrelevant.
You can say this but you don't have any authority over language. In reality, people use stupid for anything. What I'm suggesting is to rethink what you really meant behind the mask of thoughtful and hasty labeling. Was it "uneducated?" Or "illogical" as you say, or simply "I disagree" or "I don't like this." Reminds me of "using I statements" lol.
Another close analogy (though obviously imperfect) I thought of that might aid in you seeing my perspective is how the word "gay" can be used to mean "lame" (I know this itself has ableist history but it's the best word for this purpose of explaining). Instead of calling everything gay and saying "well things and people are gay when x." Put that x part aside, maybe that alone is valid to criticize, but notice how it's insulting to label that with a word used to refer to marginalized minorities. I.e. gay people and "stupid" people.
Therefore what? I'm not even arguing against this statement but asking for relevance. Using the race and gender examples again, gender and race are social constructs. They're fluid. You can also "cure" your gender as in gender affirming care. Does that make the oppressive construct something to cling to, uphold, and rely on?
I don't think I'm able to provide anything new here so if you still disagree and are interested, self reflection and organization of your beliefs and knowledge will be more helpful.
You didn't make a point. You made some weird individualist anarchist noises about it being "bigoted" to project expectations onto people.
More anarchist noises.
Incorrect usage of a word doesn't change it's meaning.
You analogy is way off base. Did people using the word "gay" to mean bad change its meaning? no. What it did was entrench the idea that being gay was bad. There is no other meaning for the word stupid it only has the one meaning. You are implying that stupidity is not a bad thing. Stupidity is intellectual laziness. It is not a lack of ability. It is a lack of effort or carelessness that produces faulty ideas and actions.
Stupid people are not a minority or marginalized group. Everyone does something stupid from time to time. I know several people who are a bit slower than average but aren't chronicaly stupid. They recognize their deficiency in speed and make up for it with carefulness. There are also plenty of really "smart" people who are really stupid. Scott Bessent US Treasury Secretary is a wizard at developing financial weapons but he can't look at a camera without telling on himself. He is fucking stupid.
Therefore it is not an ableist slur. Ableist slurs are words to dehumanize people and reduce them to nothing more than their disability. This is why you can say someone is autistic but calling them "R-----" is ablest.
Everyone is equally capable of being stupid and equally capable of stopping it. It is not dehumanizing to call someone stupid. It is a judgement of the quality of their intellectual work.
You are unable to provide anything new because you are just wrong. Stupid is not ableist. It is a judgement based on peoples actions not on their abilities.