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Ahh yes, the belief in verticalism. (thelemmy.club)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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[–] 24 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Wife of a friend argues that "burger flippers" shouldn't earn enough money. She agrees there's a market for burgers and that the jobs need to be filled, but the people shouldn't be compensated for their time. You can't change her mind.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    "It's what the market will bare"

    Burger Flippers Unionize, drive up wages

    "They're making my burgers too expensive!!!"

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

    There's isn't even an actual relationship between paying people more money and the price of the product to an individual. Not like that at least, and especially not with high volume fast food where the amount of time an employee takes to make a single unit is neglegible.

    Big Macs in the Netherlands are in the same ballpark as in the US, price wise, despite higher wages for "buger flippers" and better overall benefits, job security and working conditions.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    There’s isn’t even an actual relationship between paying people more money and the price of the product to an individual.

    That's broadly true. But end customers can't see the business balance sheets. So when wages go up at the same time as inflation, they do the Milton Friedman Econ 101 thing and blame wage earners for price spikes regardless of the reality.

    Big Macs in the Netherlands are in the same ballpark as in the US, price wise, despite higher wages for “buger flippers” and better overall benefits, job security and working conditions.

    I remember that staistic from decades ago. I wonder if it still holds true. The Dutch have been undergoing their own neoliberal fleecing of late. Rents are skyrocketing. Deregulation and union busting has taken their toll.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    I remember that staistic from decades ago. I wonder if it still holds true. The Dutch have been undergoing their own neoliberal fleecing of late. Rents are skyrocketing. Deregulation and union busting has taken their toll.

    According to some cursory googling it is. But you are also correct with the rest you're saying here ofcourse.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, do they also hit you with the "it's not meant to be a permanent full-time job, just for kids breaking into the work force for some pocket money" type shit? As if the supply of teenagers wanting to be exploited for pennies is infinite, while the lead is a 47-year-old who's been there for 12 years and gotten $5 in raises?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah that's the talk show propaganda line. Designed to make the idiots feel good that they're better than the burger flippers.

    We look at it and go, well who makes the money then the corporations? the CEO's? They say well they earned it, and we write them off as a lost cause.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    And ofc she wants to make it big. Get a huge valuation on a company with just a potential customer base (Google, M$ etc will all be paying her!) in six months and then sell. She asked me to invest. I declined.

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