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Longing for the day I can buy an EV that's not a smartphone on wheels is like... (thelemmy.club)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by to c/simpsonsshitposting@sh.itjust.works
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No touch screens, no telemetry, no cellular modems, no wifi, no apps, no subscriptions, no infotainment.

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[–] 8 points 4 months ago (17 children)

I bought the Kona (2024) and it's the best car I could ask for. It has some smart things of course, but I have no subscriptions, no phone requirement, I mostly just listen to FM radio. It's been the best car I've ever owned.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (16 children)

    Features look nice. I guess I'm just gonna have to get over my "crossover" hate and buy a car that looks like a low-top roller skate lol. Was hoping the industry would have moved on from that unfortunate design by now.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    We tried to find a small EV everywhere. Bolt was sluggish and had weird controls, leat just hasn't been updated in 10 years, and so we landed on the kona. Definitely larger than we wanted, but batteries are big. At least worth a test drive I'd suggest

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I had the opposite experience between the bolt and the Kona! The smaller bolt is a bit faster and I found drove more on the car side of the car/SUV split than the kona, and while the button placement took getting used to it has one for almost everything. We also bought while the tax credits were in effect so it was $10k cheaper for 4 miles less range.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Renault 5, soon Twingo and VW ID.Polo. Hyundai Inster ... at least in Europe. I guess in the US they'd rather sell you some oversized childcrusher instead of giving customers reasonably oriced compact options.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yup, pretty much. Those were the only three "small" versions, everything else was giant SUV sized.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    That's dire. In Europe a lot of new compact EVs have been coming on the market in 2025 and 2026. Manufacturer's finally got the message. They even started to bring prices down with no nonsense offers. I just had a look, not even VW wants to sell its new ID.Polo in the US. You know, finally VW is building good cars with good interior again, after having gotten rid of the remaining traces of the "copy all the Tesla nonsense" disease and then they don't even attempt to sell them in the US.

    Also no Hyundai Ioniq 3, no Opel Corsa Electric (or other Stellantis variants), Cupra Raval, Mini Cooper SE, or some of the Chinese offers (BYD Dolphin, Firefly Firefly, Dongfeng Box etc)? But there is the Fiat 500e on the market, isn't it?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    leat just hasn't been updated in 10 years

    I thought I read the Leaf got a fairly big update recently. I'll have to check on that when I have some time.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I was searching a few years ago, so makes sense they'd update it right after I got mine

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    makes sense they'd update it right after I got mine

    That's how my life works too haha.

    And also why I'm so hesitant to settle for a body style I dislike (seriously, crossovers: be a sedan, be an SUV, or be a station wagon; trying to be all 3 is just failing at everything...but I digress lol). As soon as I settle and buy one, I just know they'll bring back sedans.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I would have loved a sedan, but none exist here. I figured that hopefully by buying a Kona it would show that at least one american is buying the smallest car he apparently can. It was a good tradeoff.

    As for sedans making a comeback, I doubt it. Sadly, I think the industry has firmly moved away from them.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    The leaf JUST got updated finally after they made the Ariya (much bigger, already discontinued because it wasn’t profitable enough.)

    But yeah I think if anyone wants ANY new car without any of those features, good luck. You’re required to have a screen for a backup camera for anything since I think 2012? So there’s gonna at minimum be something.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I like my Kia EV6. We were in the market for an EV and test drove all of the ones we could try. I liked the KIA because it had a lot of physical buttons for my regular things. There's no real subscriptions except for things we don't use. There's a touchscreen for a lot but I can get by without using it mostly

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