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"Hierarchy is needed for PCB fabrication!" (lemmy.world)
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I made a post on hierarchy a month ago but I have some more specific questions now.

I've been hit with the claim that mass production industries that are needed today would not be possible without a hierarchy. That due to regional limitations and the logistics of smartphone manufacturing, technology cannot be produced on the needed scale without a hierarchy of managers.

This is quoted in PCB fabrication, as well as other areas such as medicine and other mass produced goods.

It is also said that managers are needed for efficiency, though I don't understand that.

Because the anarchist movement, abolishing hierarchy, "runs counter" to the "global direction of humanity and progress", it is acclaimed to being "doomed to failure" and "idealist".

What would be the anarchist response to this? Would appreciate detailed responses and/or resources.

I want to improve my anarchist understanding

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[–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Being able to make enough mobiles for everyone around the world would be significant if we are trying to go for implementing an anarchist model of society globally (or it’s just not viable).

There are probably already enough smart phones in existense for every person on the planet. And I really dont think snartphones are a necessary component of enabling anarchism, but its also not really anything bad to have them, IF we can source them and their parts without further hurting the earth via extraction. I think the current style of yearly new models and the goal of rapid improvement of capabilities is something that an anarchist society would question and probably end.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    That implies people would be content living under a system that didn't allow them to get a phone, when modern everyday work and life have become inextricably digitized to a significant extent.

    Though I agree in that we don't need new models every year lol.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    I think there probably reasonable and non violent ways to get everyone pretty decent smartphones, its just not something I would prioritize. An anarchist society spanning the whole globe might disagree with me of course and I wont object in that case, as long as we dont keep up current destructive practices.

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