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"Hierarchy is needed for PCB fabrication!" (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 months ago* by to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I made a post on hierarchy a month ago but I have some more specific questions now.

I've been hit with the claim that mass production industries that are needed today would not be possible without a hierarchy. That due to regional limitations and the logistics of smartphone manufacturing, technology cannot be produced on the needed scale without a hierarchy of managers.

This is quoted in PCB fabrication, as well as other areas such as medicine and other mass produced goods.

It is also said that managers are needed for efficiency, though I don't understand that.

Because the anarchist movement, abolishing hierarchy, "runs counter" to the "global direction of humanity and progress", it is acclaimed to being "doomed to failure" and "idealist".

What would be the anarchist response to this? Would appreciate detailed responses and/or resources.

I want to improve my anarchist understanding

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[–] 23 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Could I direct you to !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com? Thos community is probably better suited for a discussion, as !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com is mainly a meme community.

managers are needed for efficiency

Whoever said that never worked in a corporate job lol. Also David Graeber made a good argument for why manager (as in hierarchical decicionmakers, not as in sorting out logistics) are a bullshit job. But who even cares about efficiency more than about human suffering? Capitalists do, anarchists don't.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Saw a take that "billionaires are needed to stimulate the economy" a few days ago. The funniest part is they specifically meant Chinese "socialism" when writing that.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Lmao. If there is some useful function that billionaires do, then you should be able to emulate it in a democratically controlled way without enriching individuals.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Ah I figured that community wasn't as active as flippanarchy, but alright.

    That appears to be a whole book, perhaps I can give it a read sometime

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    That appears to be a whole book, perhaps I can give it a read sometime

    I tried to link the relevant paragraph, maybe your brwose doesnt take you there correctly. Its under the section "5. what taskmasters do" of the second chapter.

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