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[–] 9 points 5 months ago (5 children)

LLMs aren't magically worse for the environment, its the hardware they run on for the full sized models that is incredibly power hungry.

Not magically, just technically. Within a couple years we just made computers use significantly more energy for no good reason. This shit being into everything is incredibly unpopular.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    I'm not sure if I understand you, it sounds like you think running a small llm locally on your computer will suddenly make it use like 10x more power. That's not how it works. It's the servers used to run the full sized models that use that much power, as each one has tens of thousands of processors running at once. And local llms do have usage, especially for accessability. I use a local llm for my home assistant instance so I can use voice commands, which is very helpful as a disabled person.


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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You seem to have no idea how good modern computers are at idling

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    What does that have to do with anything?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I think their point is that regular web browsing will use less power than web browsing with local LLM calls. Your PC running an LLM is likely gonna hit its TDP limits, while browsing will be a fraction of that. Yes it’s less power than used by a trillion parameter model but I think their point is it’s vastly more than your non-LLM standard browsing would be

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Your PC running an LLM is likely gonna hit its TDP limits

    Debatable for a 4GB model, depending on the hardware. It's also (most likely) not constantly running, so while yes, it will use more power than not having it, whether or not it is a significant change in the long run depends on many factors.


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