For those who have tried MBin, is it a good Lemmy alternative? (lemmy.world)

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I heard about the whole AI moderation thing and I'm trying to move to a new fedispace.

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[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Try it and see.

It takes all of about a minute to sign up for an instance and it doesn't cost anything, so there's no reason not to do it. If you like it, great and if you don't, you're not out anything.

For the record I actually prefer KBin/MBin - they just have a better interface than Lemmy. But KBin was a one-man effort and when the guy running it burnt out, it soet of fell by the wayside. MBin is a fork that was meant to be a more open project, but the guy who was mostly responsible for it is a bit of a twat and mostly used it to pimp Monero, so it never quite caught on like it should have.

You might also sign up for an instance or two on piefed. The guy who's mostly responsible for that is also a bit of a twat, but he's had some good help and some people pushing back against his tyrannically censorious tendencies, so it's pretty decent.

The only way you're ever really going to know what you think about any of them is to try them out for yourself. And there's literally no reason not to.

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago

You might also sign up for an instance or two on piefed. The guy who’s mostly responsible for that is also a bit of a twat

If you mean Rimu, I haven't seen any examples of that. Explain?

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago

Piefed by default auto-subscribes accounts to a curated set of communities, auto-hides downvoted content and downvoted posters, attaches icons to accounts to mark those that have beyond a particular threshold of downvotes and entirely blocks links to a curated set of sites because Rimu deemed them to be unacceptable.

The only saving grace is that at this point those (anti-)features are generally toggleable at least at the admin level, but that's thanks to wjs018.

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago

Piefed by default auto-subscribes accounts to a curated set of communities

When I first signed up, I was given a 'checkbox system' to subscribe to /c's of interest. IIRC I also had the option of signing up for none. That said, if PF auto-subscribes to some core communities (like META, help, Fediverse, etc), then I'm not really seeing a problem?

auto-hides downvoted content and downvoted posters

I mean... I see plenty of downvoted content & posters in my subscribed feed. Maybe that's not the case with ALL, tho? TBH, that sounds like SOP in terms of social media.

attaches icons to accounts to mark those that have beyond a particular threshold of downvotes

I like it, as that generally helps identify low-effort & toxic posters. I guess I can see the point though that it might accidentally sweep up others, simply because they're challenging or whatnot. On the whole though, I certainly don't have a problem with that little bit of extra info, which I'm free to do with as I please.

entirely blocks links to a curated set of sites because Rimu deemed them to be unacceptable.

Yeah. Personally I would have liked to have some access to various NSFW content, as I'm not a child, but then again, PF.S is Rimu's home instance, and as the dev and head admin, I absolutely do not have a problem with him doing that. I mean, if I really wanted to work around that, there are plenty of other PF instances as a base...

So at the end of the day, you seem to be calling someone a "bit of a twat" based on policy decisions. Someone who's donated loads of his personal time, effort and brainwaves to a community project for loads of others to enjoy. Can't say that sounds particularly cool to me, mate.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

but the guy who was mostly responsible for it is a bit of a twat and mostly used it to pimp Monero

Oh damn, I missed that bit if fedi drama. Is there a writeup of what happened anywhere?

[-] Kierunkowy74@piefed.social 9 points 12 hours ago

Without his twattiness there would be no Mbin. And a legacy of /kbin would likely be as forgotten as e.g. Prismo...

The fork happened when Ernest was already struggling with his commitments in firefighting on emerging kbin.social technical issues, developing things which would prevent these issues to happen again, refactoring the code, likely work and life and - as a nail to the coffin - some health problems. Forking out of project leader during his troubles couldn't not look like a some kind of backstab. However, Ernest, in a typically Polish way, has never trusted anybody else enough to enable one to develop /kbin further. This circumstances of the forking are the crux of this drama.

Melroy technically initiated the forking of Mbin, but the project itself embraces C4 and has got no (benevolent or not) dictators. Neither of largest Mbin instances are operated by maintainters of Mbin.

I liked /kbin more than Mbin, but the former eventually collapsed. You still will be able to follow people from e.g. Mastodon or Misskey and sort their posts like on Lemmy. Or subscribe/follow to any Ghost/WriteFreely/any federated WordPress blog and benefit from probably the best interface to read long forms on federation.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

Thank you for the writeup! I wasn't actually familiar with the C4 project structure and it's cool that Mbin went with thay. I do remember Ernest and how that went down but I was curious about the Monero-pimping stuff. I was digging a bit but I couldn't find any information on that point