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just in general id like to see some communist perspective on it

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[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Freedom of speech is an excuse for liberals to allow fascism to fester without having to do anything about it (until it is too late), and it is not even a standard they are willing to abide by whenever they need to oppress the workers. Freedom of speech is a terrible idea under capitalism because media is inherently biased towards the bourgeoisie and they attack communist views (in different ways depending on what type of capitalist supporter they are) whenever they become prominent if the FBI's ruthless attacks on dissidents during the Civil Rights Movement was anything to go by.

Under socialism, it is a terrible idea because it would allow libservantives to influence society in ways that attempt to restore the capitalism of old, so any principled communist (not just Marxist-Leninists) should be against freedom of speech. Let them call us authoritarians or totalitarians for railing against the rights of fascists to spread their maggotry.

Edit: To be clear, there should be room for criticism of failed policies under socialism because that is how the vanguard can better act in the interests of the proletariat; I am against active attempts to overthrow socialism by way of supporting freedom of speech, though.

[-] opiumfree@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

this is true.

since you mentioned the civil rights movement, im curious if u agree that future socialist states will have better LGBT rights? many libservantives insist theres no gay under gommunism but i believe future socialist states will be way different than the former socialist states (who had leaders older than the invention of sliced bread). china made homosexuality fully legal before the US did, cuba has gay marriage, vietnam is quickly advancing etc. while liberal countries are reversing many of their rights

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

I think it is undoubtable that future socialist states will have better LGBT rights (whereas capitalists only bother if it can get them extra profits, which is why some modern movies have shallow LGBT representation) because being LGBT is not an ideology, but a science that future socialist states (assuming they adhere to scientific socialism) must take into account if they are to apply their scientific socialism to all aspects. LGBT workers are also a significant group socialist countries ought to take into account when unifying the working class into a fist to smash the old system (foregoing that would just risk a failed revolution on account of alienating a subsection of workers for little practical reasoning).

As fighters against oppression, the communists must not merely focus on fighting on the side of the proletariat, but the oppressed stratum of non-economic groups: queer people, those with physical or mental disabilities, ethnic minorities, etc. I find any reactionary communist groups unwilling to fight for oppression in spheres outside of the class struggle likely to fail due to pushing these oppressed groups into the hands of manipulative bourgeoisie willing to "support" them slightly more than these reactionaries would (they hardly care for these oppressed groups, but they are willing to drum up discontent and offer concessions if it means destroying the communists; afterwards, they are free to cut off the concessions because any threat to their bourgeois state is gone).

Sorry if this was a shallow explanation because I was trying not to speak too much about something while still not having much theory in my brain.

Note: Someone used a term I made up! I hope you liked it! I am happy hehe

[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

I would also like to bring up how queer rights in the West only got codified when it became useful in the West to do so, ie. doing that to create a rift between Global North queer people and oppressed people in the Global South, because now imperialist wars could be framed as the pro-queer Global North fighting an evil anti-queer Global South, and turning Global North queer people into a front for imperialism rather than a bulwark of solidarity with queer people in the Global South

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, queer rights under liberalism seems to be boiled down to temporary concessions that do not solve the oppression they face in society (which is true for liberalism in general, because it is the reform wing of the capitalist political spectrum).

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