"White Female Mamdani"?

Seattle mayor Katie Wilson added a BUS LANE.

Daily Mail is pure garbage.

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[–] 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

If you can best a bus in a footrace, that bus route needs to be improved. As simple as that.

My rule of thumb is: taking a cycle should be slower than bus (when starting at the same time) but the waiting time should not make the bus slower.

Edited: wording

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    With all the stops, cycling is usually faster unless the route is uphill or you really don't have a lot of stops and probably need more.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe I'm just a dumbass, but I think your rule of thumb is busted?

    X should be slower than A, but should not be faster than A + B.

    Isn't slower the same as "not faster"? I think it should be slower than A, but faster than A + B. So between A and A + B.

    Or "the bus should be faster if it's already here, but cycling should be faster if you'd have to wait for the bus". I think that's what you were going for.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Yeah, almost. Cycling shouldn't be much faster than having to wait. If it is, either the route has too many stops or a low frequency.

    My average cycle speed at around 10 kmph (minimal effort, no hills, some red lights) and if a bus can't match this...

    Give it better signalling, dedicated lanes to skip traffic, etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    My 'can't hold attention long enough to read all the words' brain auto-converted it to

    My rule of thumb is: taking a cycle should be slower than bus but should not be slower than waiting time + the ride.

    which must be what they meant.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    My rule of thumb is that within a city, a bus (other than BRT) is likely roughly the same speed as a bike, assuming good bike routes.

    If the bikes are stopping regularly because of red lights, that will obviously change.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Its a good rule of thumb. I ride an hour in to work (on an e-scooter) because it is faster than that bus during rush hour. Outside of rush hour though, the bus beats me every time. It'd be cool if I could become mayor to add a bus lane for that route. And all the other routes that need it tbh.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    if a bicycle is slower than a bus, then it is definitely slower than waiting+taking a bus

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    no?

    counterpoint: cycling takes 10 minutes, bus takes 5 minutes, at this point cycling is slower than the bus. waiting for the bus takes 8 minutes, now cycling is faster than waiting + ride time

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Bike with parking can and often should be faster start to destination than walking+bus+walking at least compared to city buses, it’s different with buses who are allowed to go faster than 50 km/h

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