▲ 48 ▼ Nah China "bad"/"authoritarian" and the DPRK is an "evil evil dictatorhsip" ~lemmy liberals (thelemmy.club) submitted 5 months ago by jankforlife@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 months ago (3 children) Holy chauvinism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) The framing and double-standard is chauvinist and bad. But there are reasons to be skeptical of suicide stats worldwide due to cultural ideas and norms around suicide. Like, look at the US. It was common practice for coroners to put accident as cause of death even if it was clearly suicide - and still is, to some degree. Only recently have statisticians began including certain other cases of "accidental" death as suicide (some single car crashes, gun "accidents", ODs, etc). And different countries have different methods for reporting out on suicide. It's not founded to say countries are intentionally skewing suicide stats, but it would be constructive to be skeptical about how those figures were arrived at before believing memes without citations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I would have no issue with them saying suicide stats are often inaccurate due to x, y, or z reason. What they instead chose to say was the typical chauvinist bullshit of the evil Asiatic hoardes in China and the DPRK can't be trusted to report anything truthfully nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago I was agreeing with you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) The framing and double-standard is chauvinist and bad. But there are reasons to be skeptical of suicide stats worldwide due to cultural ideas and norms around suicide. Like, look at the US. It was common practice for coroners to put accident as cause of death even if it was clearly suicide - and still is, to some degree. Only recently have statisticians began including certain other cases of "accidental" death as suicide (some single car crashes, gun "accidents", ODs, etc). And different countries have different methods for reporting out on suicide. It's not founded to say countries are intentionally skewing suicide stats, but it would be constructive to be skeptical about how those figures were arrived at before believing memes without citations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I would have no issue with them saying suicide stats are often inaccurate due to x, y, or z reason. What they instead chose to say was the typical chauvinist bullshit of the evil Asiatic hoardes in China and the DPRK can't be trusted to report anything truthfully nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago I was agreeing with you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I would have no issue with them saying suicide stats are often inaccurate due to x, y, or z reason. What they instead chose to say was the typical chauvinist bullshit of the evil Asiatic hoardes in China and the DPRK can't be trusted to report anything truthfully nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago I was agreeing with you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago I was agreeing with you permalink fedilink source parent