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Trump’s Approval Rating Sinks to Lowest Point of His Second Term (www.motherjones.com)
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[–] 3 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

Qasem Soleimani was killed by a drone strike in January 2020, ordered by Trump. Trump tried a coup in Venezuela, and installing Juan Guaidó as leader. Democrats supported that action, and was one of the few times Trump got a standing ovation from Democrats in his SOTU speech. The most civilians killed in Afghanistan, and the most bombs dropped on Afghanistan by the US was in 2019, under Trump. (To be fair, afaik there are no records prior to 2007.) Trump also dropped the MOAB on Afghanistan. In the first year of his presidency, he increased drone strikes about 430%(compared to Obama who set drone strike records himself) Trump also bombed Syria, and the newspeople had an orgasm over it on national TV. Trump's first military raid killed an American girl, an 8 year old(Obama killed her brother, 16 year old. They were children of a known terrorist) I'm sure I'm missing more examples, but those were a few.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    Everything you just said is bombing. I literally said:

    I would have believed he’d bomb a country repeatedly, but everything we’re seeing now, I would have not predicted.

    Yes, we did bomb and kill Qasem Soleimani, but we didn't start a war.

    Yes, we did bomb various places with drones, but we didn't start a war.

    Bush started a war.

    Even Clinton started a minor war.

    But everything trump did in his first term, I wouldn't call warmongering. Everything in 2026 from him I WOULD call warmongering.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Under what circumstances could another country kill, say, Pete Hegseth with a bomb on American soil, and it not be considered an act of war? Bombs literally only have one purpose, a weapon of war. And yes, during that attempted(and failed) coup in Venezuela, there were technically boots on the ground. So even that's out of the window.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Under what circumstances could another country kill, say, Pete Hegseth with a bomb on American soil, and it not be considered an act of war?

    I wouldn't consider it an act of war. An act of charity to the American people, maybe.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    I didn't say an act of war, I said a war. We did not go to war with Iran in 2020. We bombed them. We killed some of their political leaders. We did not go to war with them.

    We have boots on the ground in basically every country on earth at all times. Are we at war with Mexico right now? We have boots on the ground, and have since at least the Reagan administration. Are we in a 40+ year war with Mexico?

    I think you know damn well that 2026 Iran war is completely different than 2020 acts of war. I'm just not sure why you feel the need to try to use truthful but unrelated statements to spread misinformation.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    Well, if you wanna get technical, the recent cartel violence that broke out in Mexico, it was revealed that 80% of the cartels weapons and straight-up military vehicles came from the US. So just like we're funding multiple factions in the Syria civil war, and I would definitely consider a war in Syria, you could easily make the case that the US is in war in Mexico the same way. The other 20% of the cartels weapons came from Israel, but that's a story for another day. "We bombed them, and killed some of their political leaders, we did not go to war with them" is a hell of a statement though, and would never pass the "shoe-on-other-foot" test.

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