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8 in 10 Europeans don’t trust US, Chinese firms with data (www.politico.eu)
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[–] 53 points 5 months ago* (23 children)

Don't kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it's going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don't have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.

    Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Data control laws to prevent the sale of data not the government use of data.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    governments often buy data instead of obtaining the necessary warrants, because its easier and more effective. if they can't buy it, they have to do it the harder way, and the harder way can be made even harder with legislation

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  • [+] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

    That's only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there's a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.

    China can't do dick to me nor should they want to. I'm just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don't wanna be caught up in that!

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    they can do plenty enough to be worried. maybe they can not harm you physically (for now), but by having access to details of the private lives of people, their conversations, and being able to see how they form their opinions, they can use that information to determine how can they reshape public opinion on topics of their interests. this information can be used by themselves, or they can pass it to an ally, and it could be used to change almost anything, like interfere with elections, or further erode the need for privacy so that people are willingly giving up even more data to them

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  • [+] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I'd like to think they'd be more accommodating.

    "Ahhh Mr. Albatross, we've seen your social media traffic and we've been expecting you! In anticipation of your arrival, we've prepared some lovely poop, if you would just step this way..."

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Honestly, I prefer someone else's untrustworthy.

    I don't trust China at all, but I trust them over the US, if only because they have no stake in me as a foreigner.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Yet... they play the long game.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    They are all in on renewables. The US want everyone on oil and coal, the US wants the junky to keep and dependency.

    We are the bad guys.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I don't really see how that is relevant. Or how a country's energy sources alone can determine whether they are "good" or "bad".

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    It is an example of China being stable and the US being unreasonable and evil.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think it's anything more than short-term versus long-term thinking.

    I would not describe either country as "good", but that has nothing to do with the above statement.

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