Mere hours before Trump's 8pm Tuesday deadline yesterday, Pakistan's government contacted Iran with a US-written proposal for a two-week ceasefire, explicitly stated to also include Lebanon, during which they would negotiate a permanent end to the war on the basis of Iran's 10 Points. Among other things, these points include 1) maintaining strict control (joint with Oman) over Hormuz, complete with a toll; 2) the end of sanctions on Iran; 3) keeping their enriched uranium; 4) a withdrawal of US forces from the Middle East [stated by the Supreme Leadership Council but not in the 10 Points, so who knows], and 5) some plausible guarantee that Iran would never be attacked again. I've heard rumors that China may have prodded Iran to accept these terms.
In theory, these are relatively confident and maximalist demands. In practice, Iran has already achieved military and economic control over Hormuz and the withdrawal of many US troops and bases from the region, so at least a few of Iran's demands are, to a greater or lesser extent, already achieved, and with little hope for an increasingly exhausted US to undo these achievements short of nukes.
A couple hours after the ceasefire, the Zionist entity began a wave of airstrikes in Lebanon, killing hundreds of civilians, as well as flying drones into Iranian airspace. This was a strange move to make even if you assume - very sensibly - that the US is completely agreement non-capable: why not agree to the ceasefire and simply pretend to negotiate for two weeks while regrouping/repairing what assets you can and then start hitting Iran again?
One theory is that the Zionists are testing to what degree Iran is actually willing to have solidarity with Lebanon and Hezbollah. While the Resistance has been relatively united since October 7th, the formation of separate peaces instead of negotiating terms as a united front has been a major exploitable weakness. Alternatively, it's been proposed that the US didn't even consider using the ceasefire to regroup and deceive Iran, and that Trump merely wanted a way to chicken out of his threat on Iran's electrical grid - the fact that US officials have since stated that Iran's 10 Points were not the same ones they agreed to is a point supporting this, I suppose. If the conflict resumes and Trump does not deliver another 48 hour deadline (and/or makes it something silly like a month from now) then this could be the explanation.
From Iran, I am getting the sense that a lot is happening behind the scenes. Statements from top officials like Araghchi have stated quite plainly that there will be no ceasefire and no negotiations unless the Zionists stop attacking Lebanon, but as of ~24 hours after the ceasefire began, there has been no significant military response from Iran yet. There have apparently been phone calls between Araghchi and numerous regional officials, but it is unknown to what end. All the while, the global economic situation continues to deteriorate. Over the next week or two, the last tankers that left Hormuz before it closed will arrive at their destinations. If the missile exchanges begin once more, then the West, much like most of the rest of the world, will be experiencing all sorts of fuel, energy, food, and product shortages while trying to justify why they broke the ceasefire to kill more Lebanese civilians.
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The Zionist Entity's Genocide of Palestine
Sources on the fighting in Palestine against the temporary Zionist entity. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:
UNRWA reports on the Zionists' destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.
English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.
Mirrors of Telegram channels that have been erased by Zionist censorship.
Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Sources:
Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.
Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.
Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:
Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.
https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.
Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:
Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.
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Ok cool so sell all the gold and gems in the Vatican and give it to the poor
You have a point, but it also has shades of "when I was poor and criticized inequality they called me greedy, when I was rich and criticized inequality they called me a hypocrite."
Yeah let’s all pour one out for that principled socialist rich organization the Catholic Church. The number two pedophile ring on earth and hoarder of billions in wealth
They are hypocrites and don’t listen to Christ. Christ commanded that they give up their wealth to the poor. Now they want to preach to others despite not even removing the beam from their own eye. Christ famously loves rich hypocrites.
Not what I said, but go off.
That trope of the saying you quoted is used against socialists in bad faith. Using it against bad faith religious rightoids is valid because they don’t actually believe in wealth redistribution systematically.
A bad argument is a bad argument. "You can't criticize inequality until you give away everything you have (and then we'll just ignore you)" is a bad argument. It's not going to convince anyone of anything, and socialists using it on one hand and complaining about it on another just makes us look incoherent.
It's good to criticize the Catholic church -- I'm saying put some thought into it and don't put words in your comrades' mouths when someone points out your criticism isn't sharp.
Well except we believe in systematic permanent wealth redistribution while Catholics believe in charity and Christ commanded to give away everything at once. So socialists aren’t being hypocrites when they don’t give away their capital while Christians are.
Socialists don’t believe in a one time wealth giveaway. Catholic and Christians do. Hence the argument is valid against them.
Whether you should travel in the Mark, you ask — travel into the Mark?
The answer to this question is not exactly easy. And yet it would not become me to evade it or even to say a outright “no.” So then: “yes.” But “yes” with conditions. Let me enumerate point by point what I consider indispensable. Whoever wants to travel in the Mark must first bring with him a love for “land and people,” or at least no prejudice. He must have the good will to find the good good, instead of killing it through carping comparisons. The traveler in the Mark must furthermore feel himself equipped with a finer kind of sense for his surrounding . There are coarse eyes that immediately demand a glacier or a sea-storm in order to be satisfied.
These had better stay at home.
But if you have now carefully weighed all these points, if you have, as the English say, "made your soul ready,” and if you have come to the conclusion: “I can venture it,” then venture it boldly.
Venture it boldly!
And you will not regret it. Peculiar joys and pleasures will accompany you. You will make discoveries, for wherever you go you will, from the tourist’s point of view, be entering “virgin land.” You will come upon monastery ruins of whose existence perhaps only the nearest town has a faint knowledge; in old village churches, whose crumbling shingle tower seems to speak only of poverty, you will find great wall-paintings or, in crypts without stairs, rich copper coffins with crucifixes and gilded coats of arms. You will cross battlefields, churchyards, heathen graves of which people know nothing anymore; and instead of guidebooks and commonplace histories, sagas and legends. Here and there even fragments of long-forgotten songs — will speak to you. But the best thing you will encounter will be the people themselves, provided you know how to find the right word for the “common man.” Do not disdain the straw sack beside the coachman; let him tell you about his house and farm, about his town or village, about his soldiering days or his wandering years, and his chatter will envelop you with the magic of what is natural and alive When you return home, you will not have heard anything learned by rote, as on the great tours where everything has its fixed price place and tariff. The man himself, however, will have opened up before you. And that, after all, remains the best.
what do you think is something that is more well known in the World , then that the Catholic Church did bad things , and misappropriates funds and Burned Critics and has Childsexscandals ,etc. ?
Like its Extremly well known in my opinion. Because Church is so very Central to western History , Development , Holidays , Realms of Councious , Colonialism , Witchbuning , Crusading , Calendar , City Development , Jesus , City Founding , Music .. everywhere ! Yes there as well .
Like its the Church. Its very Important. Yes ? it can be assumed people are informed. on a certain level about it.
And the Pope - The Leader of the Church - of this very important thing - this central aspect of: the globals South , of Megachurches in Latin America , Of Africa and Asia . - (with many christian communities currently ravished by war and terror in Syria and Lebanon , with ancient Holysites beeing bombed) , he said something political.
Things like that are newsworthy.
Yes China had Tianamen Square! , yes in Russia People fell from windows , And yes Catholic church does "Removed" ,Burned witches and does Preach Water while Drinking wine.
Yes.
Panta rhei
Imagine Lenin reading this
Lenin speaking about the Catholic Church, which he considered a bastion of the reactionary bourgeoise
Strange how you get up in arms when someone calls protestants blasphemous for viewing the Book of Revelation as a summoning ritual and an excuse to do genocide, but are very confident that the pope is being hypocritical for not interpreting the Bible the way you do.
The pope is the one saying this! I’m not “interpreting Catholicism” he is! He is openly stating to do something he doesn’t do
The wealth of the Catholic Church doesn't belong to the Pope, it belongs to the Church. He is not the few.
How can you be the arbiter of all christianity and supreme interpreter of the text and words of Jesus, while the millions of practicing church-going Catholics and the popr himself, who believe this collective wealth of the Church is allowed, are all hypocrites?
Oh so the billions of catholic worshippers all jointly own the jewels and gold? Guess I'll just convert and grab my share
Why are you pretending the leader of a private organization can't simply do whatever they want with the property they control?
This isn't hypocrisy, this is how religion works. This is how religion has always worked. "God" is the collective will of a group of people laundered through mystification to justify itself, it's impossible for an entire congregation to be "hypocritical" because they are god. Only members who go against the group are hypocrits, the group is always right just as God is always right. If the a church says the church gets to collectively have a bejeweled rod or cross, then the group are not hypocrits. You are engaging in a liberal, descriptionist analysis of religion instead of a prescriptive one.
My original comment:
Quoting me to "own me by my own logic" doesn't work if you alter the quote and fundamentally change its meaning. It is indeed hypocrisy for someone to say to do something but not do it themselves, this has nothing to do with religion even. It's just fundamentally hypocritical to say to do something and then not do it. That is what the pope did. This has nothing to do with blasphemy and doctrine which the original discussion was about, and pertains to the organic interpretations of congregations - again nothing to do with the commands of leadership.
individuals can be blasphemous, entire congregations cannot. Again, completely different discussion than hypocrisy, which both individuals and groups can be.
Congregations can't be blasphemous? If there were any Arians left around I would tell you to let them know.
The pope doesn't own the riches of the church, because he does not own the church. And I can turn your argument around on you, because you are now what you claimed can't be done because now it suits you emotionally. The church does not view this as hypocritical, therefore it's not, the same way it's apparently not blasphemous to say that you can summon Jesus to Earth, even though the Bible explicitly says it is. The wealth belongs to the church, not the pope. It doesn't matter what Jesus might have said about wealth explicitly, God is "para-textually" telling the church its allowed to hold wealth.
Furthermore, your opinion isn't even based in material reality. It's not the 1500s. The pope doesn't command kings. If the church sells it's wealth, theres food for a few years until the ruling class reassets control over the global working class. Your argument is just "if you are a socialist, why aren't you wearing a barrell".
"when I was poor (never) and criticized inequality they called me greedy, when I was using my immense wealth to fund fascist orgs around the world they called me a hypocrite."
No, it's "from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs" as written in the Critique of the Gotha Programme. Yes, the more fortunate have an obligation to do more than their fair share of labor for the sake of the less fortunate by virtue of having more ability to do so. The fruits of labor belong neither to those who labor nor to those who own the means of labor, but those who need the fruits the most.
I get what you're saying but in the other hand I don't want the artwork of the Vatican to be locked up in some demonic oligarch's private hoard. I want it to be used to serve the common food, either in a museum or through use in a religious context. The poor are not poor because of museum pieces being on display in a museum, the poor are poor because of capitalist exploitation and no amount of philanthropy is going to abolish poverty.
Why are you defending a pedo ring?
The Catholic Church is comically evil and hypocritical, the Pope posting platitudes on Twitter doesn't change that
I just congratulate to your Smart Observatons and your sense of Priorites. Tipping the Fedora is a sing of respect.
This isn't badposting buddy
is it r/atheism ?
You can't seriously be shocked and appalled that the communists on the communism internet forum are criticizing the Catholic church...
I am just shocked and appauledthat liberal takes on a communist formum are going almost unchecked. But that why i am here.
You can Take the Lib out of reddit , but you cant take the reddit out of the lib.
Catholic Church is a Global South religion these days. The Pope is preaching against empire.
You can choose to understand the singificane of that. Try it.
The woke pope is a third-worldist
correct
I mean, he is Peruvian, and as we know... Perú es clave.
Well, you did say "liberal" and "reddit" a lot and those things are bad, so you're probably right. My apologies good sir!
Criticizing/disliking/distrusting the Catholic Church doesn’t make someone a liberal Redditor. Liberals don’t have claim on that or even atheism, any more than they could possibly claim gender equality or other beliefs that are also held by communists.
Let’s not exaggerate the Catholic Church into a revolutionary leftist organization. The institution is reactionary no matter how much they vacillate between mild social-democracy and fascism.
You're being a contrarian because annoying redditors pissed you off ten years ago and you still haven't gotten over it
No they pissed me of 15 minutes ago...
it's hypocritical but i think signalling the pope signalling a sympathy for a more "socialist" ethos could potentially make it easier for very catholic populations to accept rule by an actual socialist government
Woke Pope part 2
Therapist: the Woke Bears Fan Pope can't hurt you, they're not real
Pope Leo:
Chuds:
I am really enjoying how crazy the woke pope is making american catholics
we are this close to the chud reformation
Also some of the lapsed protestants in the news mega, apparently.
also hexbear users apperently....
But of course. This place is full of Liberals.
In Vast contrast to the Global south , it is full of faithfull people..
be carfull: maybe heathens ,Heretics ,Pagans , Infidels ,Apostates ,Schismatics ,Unbelievers ,Nonconformists , Blasphemers ,Secularists ,Freethinkers , Skeptics, Agnostic, Atheist, Idolater &Modernist. But no Liberals.