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Punish the Democrats, she says (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

It’s basic harm reduction.

Nonsense.

Absolute nonsense, and the Palestinian Americans who voted 'undetermined' en masse during the Democratic primaries to send a message to Biden/Harris knew it too. The party made their choice between the people and an unpopular genocide. They chose genocide.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

    Hey guess what. The genocide got even worse under harris' opposition. How did that work out for all the genocide joe non-voters. How have palestinians benefitted under those protest votes/non-votes. Not to mention all the dead iranians that wouldnt be had harris won

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Hey guess what. The genocide got even worse under harris’ opposition.

    Congratulations on the furtherance of your only goal.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I was trying tp get people to vote for the person that wasnt going to start more wars in the middle east. Or kill random people in the carribean. Or put all trans people on a watch list. Or rail against any form of electrification. No the only ones who accomplished their hoals were those trying to get americans to think that the above candidate was the same as harris. You know realy morons.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    No the only ones who accomplished their hoals were those trying to get americans to think that the above candidate was the same as harris.

    She was the same as Biden. She said she was gonna govern like Biden, and no one was happy with biden except centrists. Centrists loved how he broke every last one of the promises he made to the left in 2020. You loved it even more when he broke the law to sell weapons for genocide.

    Progressives were swindled and then told that no change for the better would be coming for at least 8 years, under a candidate that was appointed without a primary by the guy who lied to us and supported genocide.

    Maybe bring more cheneys next time. Maybe treat more constituents with contempt. Maybe if you look enough like temu fascism, you'll pick up those imaginary moderate republicans you use as a justification for moving so far to the right that genocide support wasn't negotiable.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    That's true.

    It always does, because both ruling parties exist in service to Israel. And therefore, they have no impetus to do anything but escalate.

    Had she been elected we'd be in exactly the same position.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    Really wed be at war with iran? Wed be blowing up random boats and killing people in the caribean? We would have snatched up other country leaders? We would have completely destroyed world trade by tarrifing every other country on the planet? We would have all but destroyed the NATO aliance by starting said iran war and also threatening to violently invade greenland and canada? Do you need a prescription for this severity of blindness

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Really wed be at war with iran? Wed be blowing up random boats and killing people in the caribean? We would have snatched up other country leaders?

    Israel would be, and therefore, we would be too. Yes.

    We would have completely desgrpyed world trade by tarrifing every other country on the planet?

    You'll recall that Biden actually kept many of the Donald tariffs, so yes, it's likely we'd be okay with disrupting trade to some extent.

    We wpuld have all but destroyed the NATO aliance by starting said iran war and also threatening to violently invade greenland and canada?

    Not Canada or Greenland specifically, but considering Obama was at war in 7 countries when he left office (that we're able to confirm, at least. Could be many more.), and Biden was bombing several countries as well as aiding and abetting genocide and a manufactured famine in Palestine, it's hard to argue that we wouldn't be doing stupid shit militarily regardless. That's especially true given the bloodlust of Israel and the Democrats' insistence that we continue to hand them WMD's on demand.

    Do you need a prescription for this severoty of blindness

    Thank you for the suggestion. You need to stop pretending that the Democrats are meaningfully different from Republicans, especially considering the Democrats also ran a candidate with publicly-evident brain damage.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago*

    Israel would be, and therefore, we would be too. Yes.

    No we wouldnt. Biden had four years to do this and never did. Youre making up fake scenarios to justify your position

    You'll recall that Biden actually kept many of the Donald tariffs, so yes, it's likely we'd be okay with disrupting trade to some extent.

    Some not all anf hr didnt introduce 200% random tarrifs accross allues and random countries alike. Again fake scenarios to justify your position

    Not Canada or Greenland specifically, but considering Obama was at war in 7 countries when he left office (that we're able to confirm, at least. Could be many more.), and Biden was bombing several countries as well as aiding and abetting genocide and a manufactured famine in Palestine, it's hard to argue that we wouldn't be doing stupid shit militarily regardless. That's especially true given the bloodlust of Israel and the Democrats' insistence that we continue to hand them WMD's on demand.

    So no. He wouldnt have like trump did do and that youre trying to downplay with made up scenarios of what you think biden would have done even though he could have but didnt.

    You need to stop gaslighting yourself into thinking everyone is the same and only you are special and different and see the problems of the world. They are different. There are people dead today that would not have been had harris won and trump lost. But you do all this song amd dance to try and justify inaction in the face of trump. Or worse cause so much division that no cohesive response to trump can be formed.

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