▲ 922 ▼ Windows 11’s push for mandatory Microsoft accounts is hitting a nerve with users who say the change complicates setup, privacy, and basic PC ownership (www.windowscentral.com) submitted 5 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@lemmy.world 200 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 months ago (11 children) Google onboarding on Android... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (10 children) The key difference is that there are credible alternatives in the PC OS space. If I could ditch Android/iOS without major pain, I'd do it in a heartbeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Try GrapheneOS permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skv@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (7 children) Root and use custom roms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 13 points 5 months ago (2 children) Only works if your device has an unlockable bootloader, and most phones nowadays are completely locked down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Most but not all. If someone cares THAT much about making a free account and telemetry, a few minutes on XDA won't hurt their schedule. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago That's the direction that many manufacturers are trying to push PCs as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (3 children) alas, most models of android phones don't have support from the custom roms that currently exist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) If, the roms exist, there's clearly hardware for them.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) And what should you suggest we should do with the ones that don't? Bury them all at some landfill? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago Well, they were born e-waste, so yea. If the consumer is in middle of the lake of information, but refuses to drink anything but bottled corpo propaganda and dies from dehydration...... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (10 children) The key difference is that there are credible alternatives in the PC OS space. If I could ditch Android/iOS without major pain, I'd do it in a heartbeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Try GrapheneOS permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skv@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (7 children) Root and use custom roms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 13 points 5 months ago (2 children) Only works if your device has an unlockable bootloader, and most phones nowadays are completely locked down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Most but not all. If someone cares THAT much about making a free account and telemetry, a few minutes on XDA won't hurt their schedule. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago That's the direction that many manufacturers are trying to push PCs as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (3 children) alas, most models of android phones don't have support from the custom roms that currently exist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) If, the roms exist, there's clearly hardware for them.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) And what should you suggest we should do with the ones that don't? Bury them all at some landfill? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago Well, they were born e-waste, so yea. If the consumer is in middle of the lake of information, but refuses to drink anything but bottled corpo propaganda and dies from dehydration...... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skv@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (7 children) Root and use custom roms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 13 points 5 months ago (2 children) Only works if your device has an unlockable bootloader, and most phones nowadays are completely locked down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Most but not all. If someone cares THAT much about making a free account and telemetry, a few minutes on XDA won't hurt their schedule. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago That's the direction that many manufacturers are trying to push PCs as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (3 children) alas, most models of android phones don't have support from the custom roms that currently exist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) If, the roms exist, there's clearly hardware for them.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) And what should you suggest we should do with the ones that don't? Bury them all at some landfill? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago Well, they were born e-waste, so yea. If the consumer is in middle of the lake of information, but refuses to drink anything but bottled corpo propaganda and dies from dehydration...... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 13 points 5 months ago (2 children) Only works if your device has an unlockable bootloader, and most phones nowadays are completely locked down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Most but not all. If someone cares THAT much about making a free account and telemetry, a few minutes on XDA won't hurt their schedule. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago That's the direction that many manufacturers are trying to push PCs as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skv@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago Most but not all. If someone cares THAT much about making a free account and telemetry, a few minutes on XDA won't hurt their schedule. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago That's the direction that many manufacturers are trying to push PCs as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (3 children) alas, most models of android phones don't have support from the custom roms that currently exist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) If, the roms exist, there's clearly hardware for them.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) And what should you suggest we should do with the ones that don't? Bury them all at some landfill? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago Well, they were born e-waste, so yea. If the consumer is in middle of the lake of information, but refuses to drink anything but bottled corpo propaganda and dies from dehydration...... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skv@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) If, the roms exist, there's clearly hardware for them.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) And what should you suggest we should do with the ones that don't? Bury them all at some landfill? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago Well, they were born e-waste, so yea. If the consumer is in middle of the lake of information, but refuses to drink anything but bottled corpo propaganda and dies from dehydration...... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) And what should you suggest we should do with the ones that don't? Bury them all at some landfill? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skv@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago Well, they were born e-waste, so yea. If the consumer is in middle of the lake of information, but refuses to drink anything but bottled corpo propaganda and dies from dehydration...... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skv@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago Well, they were born e-waste, so yea. If the consumer is in middle of the lake of information, but refuses to drink anything but bottled corpo propaganda and dies from dehydration...... permalink fedilink source parent