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GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating systems — group says it will never require personal information (www.tomshardware.com)
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[–] 67 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Now if only GrapheneOS was easy to install on cheap Android devices.

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  • [–] 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They have reached a deal with Motorola, so hopefully there will be more options soon. You can get we used pixels pretty cheap though, and the installation process is very easy.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I was wondering how this stance will impact that deal. A large company like Motorola would typically seek to comply with laws such as these

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm hoping they already had the discussion with Motorola about it. I'm assuming Motorola wouldn't be on the hook legally since Graphene is the OS provider. I could be wrong though.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago

    In the worst case it will just be Motorola shipping their base android version with verification and then just flashing grapheme over it. Just the way it currently works with pixels.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Remember Motorola phones are made by Lenovo which is now an Indian company.

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  • [+] -12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Pixel is the brand name from DoubleClick. I've got no interest. Plus, it's a pain to put them on Tracfone, so I've got net-negative interest.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    It's not just a pain, it's basically impossible to install Graphene to a TracFone because you'd have to build it all yourself, and then still be vulnerable anyway. I also doubt that you could even get it to properly build for TracFone.

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  • [–] 47 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Grapheneos is surprisingly the most easy OS to install... The issue is most phone manufacturer's dont meet Grapheneos its standards.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Cheap android devices don't have the proper security hardware. Hopefully the Motorola phone is cheaper than a pixel though. Used pixels are also pretty cheap, all things considered.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Correction, the oldest supported Pixels that will likely lose support soon are pretty cheap. Everything else was still around $400 when I checked last month.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    $400 is pretty cheap for a phone these days.

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not interested in using anything with DoubleClick's hooks in it. I'm happy with my $30 Tracfone for most of the features it offers.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Your TracFone will never have the security features required and will always be vulnerable to things like Cellebrite. If it's an Android phone, you're also being tracked by several companies.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's what it is then.I just don't want to deal with the arbitrary nonsense like age-verification and software install limitations. Then again, I only have a phone at all because of my wife. If it were just me, I'd just keep a featurephone in a drawer and maybe check that it's charged once a month. As it stands, I may end up having to give up the small amount of morality I have and just give up on Android and pay a ridiculous amount of money just for phone service.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I'm glad to see that Graphene won't be doing the age verification thing, because I'm afraid all new phones (including TracFones) will require it moving forward. But the hardware limitations will continue to be a blocker for people with cheap phones.

    I agree on wanting to ditch my phone altogether. Maybe if I can retire, I can ditch it.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    And if all banking apps were compatible with it...

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