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[–] 56 points 6 months ago (13 children)

What the fuck are we supposed to do when the services we use are monopolies which actively seeks to destroy its competition as well as enshittify itself to a point its unusable :|

Time to start self hosting. 

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Time to start self hosting

    There is simply no usable self-hosted search engine. There are some projects like Yacy or Searxng, but they do not have their own index. And having your own self-hosted index is kind of impossible because you need to save the whole of the web on your own devices to be able to search it.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yacy does have its own index it even allows you to crawl the webpages yourself from the settings page problem is that the results you get out of it fucking suck

    I really like the concept of yacy just wish the results were better but I think there is value in p2p search indexes yacy is probably the most reasonable search engine to self host since you don't have to index everything yourself

    I have had some success with https://marginalia-search.com/

    Which does have its own index it is open source so you could theoretically self host but you would need to make your own index

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, that's a problem. So even if you want to search your local newspaper, you won't be able to because of bot protection. Your crawler will be blocked. You also can't put the whole of Reddit or even Lemmy in your search index.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I do think this is one of the places where yacy has it's strength since yacy is p2p you can retrieve results from other nodes that have indexed the page thus large websites can be collectively indexed by many nodes.

    I also don't remember having problems with the crawler getting blocked but I also didn't do a lot of crawls I can see this being a problem though.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    And pirate. Steal anything they try and sell to you

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    ten year ago there were still things we could have done to stop google. now is too late...

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    These entities may have gone but their ghosts never left. They only got up ended because of paradigm shifts, not because the system that allowed them to exist got fixed. The new stuff that replaced the old ones eventually goes on the same path. I am not hopeful anything ever will happen.

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