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The radical left (thelemmy.club)
submitted 6 months ago by [M] to c/YUROP@feddit.org
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[–] -1 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Sounds cruel but most people cut other people off. Otherwise there would already be global socialism. Why does the immigrant deserve healthcare but not their family at home? German migrant worker laws once granted that.

The question is how everybody can expand their cut off limit until we are ready to make the world nice for everybody.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    This is actually a good demonstration of what I mean, yes.

    Just by using the word immigrant a divide between 'everybody' is made and then people are free to start cutting each other off from healthcare, exactly as you put it. The cruelty is perfectly rationalized. Away, even.

    Suddenly national borders and individual locale are valid opposition to a concept of healthcare for 'everybody'.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    The tricky part comes when resources are limited. Should the old native receive treatment to live five more years or the young immigrant who can gain a full life?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Resources are only limited due to resource hoarding. The scarcity is artificial to ensure a working population.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    The best doctors, donor organs, fast treatment, there will always be scarcity.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Students are saddled with enormous debt if they want to learn how to practice medicine. UBI-based society would solve that, if education and the fundamentals are free.

    People who have the ability and interest in medicine, are stuck flipping burgers because they wouldn't survive without money. That is fucked up, and hugely wasteful of potential talent in every sector of America.

    Capitalism is inherently inefficient.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Capitalism is inherently inefficient.

    It is, but there can't be limitless supply with any form of government.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    We seem to have enough resources to afford the Epstein Class, and lashing out at other countries at the behest of an addled manchild. If we eliminated wage theft, capped individual wealth, and properly taxed companies, there would be more than enough wealth to support everyday people.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    The rich arent driving around to all the stores and buying up all the lawn mowers, they arent buying all the food at your local diner, what kind of hoarding are they doing?

    They generally just hold stocks as far as I'm aware, which are then used as collateral and lower borrowing rates, leading to more production and someone else consuming that wealth.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    They hoard the money, brother

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    The rich have the most debt, they benefit from the cantillon effect more than they hoard cash. Elon Musk borrows all the money he spends.

    Which is government caused, and they are responding to incentives.

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