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Your car’s tire sensors could be used to track you (networks.imdea.org)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Fuck Cars.

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[–] 0 points 6 months ago (12 children)

What an incredibly bad take. Indeed, having properly inflated tires is a safety issue. How do you know if they're properly inflated? Are you checking them every 3 minutes while driving? Because TPMS is...

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (9 children)

    Because I was bored

    GIDAS data

    https://www.ircobi.org/wordpress/downloads/irc0111/2009/Session2/2_3.pdf

    It concludes that even if you increased grip, which includes tire pressure variance, by 15%, it would only represent a reduction of 2% of road related fatalities, which is actually within the margin of error.

    While 2% sounds like a lot, GIDAS also shows that tire failures account for less than 1% of road accidents causing death.

    So you're spending $300 to $500 on a new car for a TPMS which reduces the probability of accidental death by 0.02%.

    And fun fact, most tire related accidents are actually from tread depth, not low pressure, and TPMS will do fuck all to tell you your tread depth is low.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    It concludes that even if you increased grip

    It's nothing to do with grip. In fact, a lower tire pressure will actually increase grip.

    tire failures account for less than 1% of road accidents causing death.

    Oh well if no one died it must not be a safety issue?

    So you're spending $300 to $500 on a new car for a TPMS

    Uhhh nope, it comes with the car...

    And fun fact, most tire related accidents are actually from tread depth, not low pressure

    So we're just going to ignore it as a safety issue because it's not a main cause of collisions?

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  • [+] -1 points 6 months ago (7 children)
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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Your personal insults are only reflecting poorly on you.

    They come with the car. Every car. Doesn't matter how much they cost. They are not optional. It is not a choice your can make.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    They didn't come with my car. My car does not have a TPMS sensor. Your "every car comes with them" statement is blatantly false.

    And, I am not insulting you, if anything I am sad for you. I made what I believe is an honest assessment of your intellectual capabilities based on your lack of understanding with how parts inside an automobile are priced and the nonsensical responses you have given to cogent points.

    It doesn't matter if it's mandated for inclusion where you live, that doesn't mean it's free. You are paying for it. In fact, you are paying for sensors to be replaced multiple times over the life of the vehicle, another thing which most people won't do. So, every 3 to 8 years (depending on various factors), you have to replace the TPMS sensors, pay another $300 to $500 for something which does sweet fuck all for your safety.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    They didn't come with my car.

    Them you have an old car. Every new car comes with them, and has for a long time, because it's required by law.

    I am not insulting you

    If you don't think calling me stupid is an insult then I have "assessed your intellectual capabilities" and decided you're actually a moron.

    It doesn't matter if it's mandated for inclusion where you live, that doesn't mean it's free. You are paying for it.

    I didn't say it was free. I said it was included and not a choice you have to make. Someone who's not a moron would have understood that.

    So, every 3 to 8 years (depending on various factors), you have to replace the TPMS

    LOL what? Who told you that!?

    which does sweet fuck all for your safety.

    It monitors your tire pressure. That's important for safety, as I've outlined several times now.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I have a 2019, which I stated multiple times.

    Not all cars come with them. Maybe it's law where you live, but not where I live.

    If you don't think calling me stupid is an insult then I have "assessed your intellectual capabilities" and decided you're actually a moron.

    The I'm rubber and you're glue argument. Good job. You really showed me. Do you need a pat on the head?

    I didn't say it was free. I said it was included and not a choice you have to make. Someone who's not a moron would have understood that.

    It wasn't included in my car. It was not even offered on my car. The fact that you are 100% convinced of something that is just not true and keep arguing that it is, is what makes me think you're not very smart.

    LOL what? Who told you that!?

    Fuck me. You really are dense. You know the batteries don't last forever.

    It monitors your tire pressure. That's important for safety, as I've outlined several times now.

    Just because you say something more than once, doesn't make you right. You asserted something, I provided statistical evidence from GIDAS proving you wrong, and you just "nuh-uhed" and repeated the same point. It's effect on safety is statistically insignificant.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Okay every response you gave included an insult, while providing the most moronic strawman takes possible so I'm going to conclude that you're arguing not only in bad faith but also maliciously, and block you. Better luck next time.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Because I am not a complete fucking idiot.

    If you truly believe that nonsense you are spewing, your probably shouldn't be driving. You are unaware of the operational aspects of your vehicle and are a danger to the people around you.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    Because I am not a complete fucking idiot.

    Mmmmmm

    You are unaware of the operational aspects of your vehicle and are a danger to the people around you.

    WTF is a "operational aspect"?

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