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Lemmy devs pitching lemmy 3 years ago to r/linux (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Go figure! Lemmy devs already know that reddit was doomed! Sorry this is a link to reddit but it's the only thing i found!

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nowhere in the linked discussion predicted the doom of Reddit. In one of the threads, the Lemmy Dev said:

"The ability for anyone to host a link aggregator, and build federated communities outside of the largest centralized services, and particularly outside of the jurisdiction of US-based companies like Reddit, has large implications for media sharing and online discussion."

Don't forget that the Lemmy Dev is a tankie, and what the implications really meant to them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

And this pitch to /r/linux notably leaves out this other, older pitch...

https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, recorder of left audiobooks, and megathread shitposter here.

Posting this in light of a recent one week Reddit ban I earned for shitting on US police, as I'm sure many of us have gotten in recent weeks.

So I've spent the past few months working on a self hostable, federated, Reddit alternative called Lemmy, and it's pretty much ready to go. Unlike here we'd have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor.

Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are, so we should never abandon Reddit entirely, but it's been clear to all of us from day one, that communities like this stand on unsteady ground, and could be banned or quarantined at any moment by the white supremacist Reddit admins. This would be both a backup and a potentially better alternative. Moderation abilities are there, as well as a slur filter.

Raddle isn't an option obviously since it's run by this arch anti tankie scum, ziq.

I wanted to ask ppl here if they'd like me to host an instance, and mod all the current mods here.

Note the line: Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are. I'm pretty left-leaning myself (I draw the line at authoritarianism though), but they're very open about using their platform to push an agenda. The instance that post mentions at the end became Lemmygrad. Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad are the same people - the ".ml" in "lemmy.ml" even stands for "Marxist-Leninist".

I joined Lemmy.ml in 2020 after this pitch to /r/linux... and left shortly afterward when I saw who ran it. Thankfully we have other options now (hello from Kbin!).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Luckily Lemmy is open source and a lot of new developers have started contributing to it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Crucially, it could be forked if things go south with the developers.

Also, this is my first comment in a Kbin magazine (from Lemmy), hi Kbinners!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could we please keep the instances apart from the software? It doesn't matter at all what the political views of the devs are. You don't support them if you're using Lemmy on an instance that has nothing to do with the two devs. They created something that's larger than themselves. I'm getting tired of the LEMMY DEVS ARE TANKIES outcries.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the time I joined Lemmy, lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad were basically the only places in town.

Things have changed nowadays. But I'm still very wary of lemmy.ml, and as long as the devs are in charge of that instance I will keep warning people about it.

I trust that they won't let their political views get in the way of maintaining Lemmy itself, but it's important that people have context instead of stumbling into it themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I trust that they won't let their political views get in the way of maintaining Lemmy itself

It's not like anyone can't see it and fork it if they do. It's like complaining about the political views of the architect who designed your house. You'd be able to notice the Lenin-shaped staircase landing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you, I'm tired of everyone taking this too far. I'm also hardly against authoritarian regimes of any kind, left and right, but this is a generic use open source software we're talking about, not a political party. I support the platform and I appreciate all the devs for what they do, it's really good software and it makes me happy as a programmer myself to see social media code that isn't filled with bloat and spaghetti code or malicious anti privacy features

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unlike here we'd have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor

Yeah no fuck that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Good thing you don't need to use their instances.