▲ 52 ▼ General Discussion Thread - Juche 115, Week 9 (thelemmy.club) submitted 6 months ago by GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml [M] to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml 132 comments fedilink hide all child comments Welcome again to everybody. Make yourself at home. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is the weekly discussion thread. ☭ Matrix homeserver and space ☭ Theory discussion group on /c/theory@lemmygrad.ml ☭ Find theory on ProleWiki, marxists.org, Anna's Archive
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 months ago (2 children) How can someone reach the ripe age of 30 and never figure out the US is a global military dictatorship? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 months ago This can be generalized, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." permalink fedilink source parent [–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 6 months ago another opportunity to post my favorite article Talk of "manufacturing" and "inventing" suggests an imposition over and against the individual's will. I believe that, on the contrary, the process of Western propaganda is better understood in terms of "licensing": the issuing of moral license for the bourgeois proletariat to profitably go along with bourgeois designs without the feeling of shame overwhelming. In this alternative account people aren't "brainwashed" insofar as they don't actually believe the lies, not in the way that we generally understand belief. It's more correct to say that they go along with them, whether enthusiastically or apprehensively, because it's actually their optimal survival strategy. When we concede that the time horizon and scope of responsibility within which we all make our decisions varies, it becomes much easier to see how their choice could be smart and intelligent. The enlightened critic can plead that if we all agreed to denounce the status quo in unison we'd be immensely rewarded, but the average worker in the first world cannot be accused of naiveté for preferring to keep a low profile, particularly after being subject very often by that same critic to so many grim stories of murder and of punishment and of how any attempt at radical change always goes awry. - Roderic Day, Masses, Elites, and Rebels permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 months ago This can be generalized, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 6 months ago another opportunity to post my favorite article Talk of "manufacturing" and "inventing" suggests an imposition over and against the individual's will. I believe that, on the contrary, the process of Western propaganda is better understood in terms of "licensing": the issuing of moral license for the bourgeois proletariat to profitably go along with bourgeois designs without the feeling of shame overwhelming. In this alternative account people aren't "brainwashed" insofar as they don't actually believe the lies, not in the way that we generally understand belief. It's more correct to say that they go along with them, whether enthusiastically or apprehensively, because it's actually their optimal survival strategy. When we concede that the time horizon and scope of responsibility within which we all make our decisions varies, it becomes much easier to see how their choice could be smart and intelligent. The enlightened critic can plead that if we all agreed to denounce the status quo in unison we'd be immensely rewarded, but the average worker in the first world cannot be accused of naiveté for preferring to keep a low profile, particularly after being subject very often by that same critic to so many grim stories of murder and of punishment and of how any attempt at radical change always goes awry. - Roderic Day, Masses, Elites, and Rebels permalink fedilink source parent