▲ 598 ▼ A.I.’s un-learning problem: Researchers say it’s virtually impossible to make an A.I. model ‘forget’ the things it learns from private user data (finance.yahoo.com) submitted 3 years ago by assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 206 comments fedilink hide all child comments I'm rather curious to see how the EU's privacy laws are going to handle this. (Original article is from Fortune, but Yahoo Finance doesn't have a paywall)
[+] reddig33@lemmy.world 20 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) But it's true. These AI models are not some big database where every piece of information is stored and can just be removed whenever you desire. Imagine you almost got hit by a car while crossing the road as a child. That memory influenced your decisions from there on out, you learnt to always look before crossing, and over time your brain literally got wired differently because of that incident. Suddenly 20 years later the law requires you to remove that memory from your brain because apparently it was private data. How do you do that? It's not a single data point that just hangs around in your brain. Even if you could remove that memory, it still has compound effects on who you are and what you do. There is no removing that memory in such a way that all its effects on your brain are completely gone. It's exactly the same for these AI models. The way this one private data point affected the model parameters cannot be reverted unless you retrain the entire thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago I mean, it's true these models can't be reversed. It's bullshit to claim that these models are the only way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] regalia@literature.cafe 3 points 3 years ago It's true, but it's also not an excuse. They broke the law because they were unlawfully collecting this data without explicit consent. They should absolutely be getting fucked for privacy violations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) But it's true. These AI models are not some big database where every piece of information is stored and can just be removed whenever you desire. Imagine you almost got hit by a car while crossing the road as a child. That memory influenced your decisions from there on out, you learnt to always look before crossing, and over time your brain literally got wired differently because of that incident. Suddenly 20 years later the law requires you to remove that memory from your brain because apparently it was private data. How do you do that? It's not a single data point that just hangs around in your brain. Even if you could remove that memory, it still has compound effects on who you are and what you do. There is no removing that memory in such a way that all its effects on your brain are completely gone. It's exactly the same for these AI models. The way this one private data point affected the model parameters cannot be reverted unless you retrain the entire thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago I mean, it's true these models can't be reversed. It's bullshit to claim that these models are the only way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago I mean, it's true these models can't be reversed. It's bullshit to claim that these models are the only way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] regalia@literature.cafe 3 points 3 years ago It's true, but it's also not an excuse. They broke the law because they were unlawfully collecting this data without explicit consent. They should absolutely be getting fucked for privacy violations. permalink fedilink source parent