391
Means to deceive (thelemmy.club)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/animemes@ani.social
23 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

why would giving up my job be a bad thing? i don't dream of labor. I'm also against people being fired through but let's not act like having job is natural, that's one of the most pervasive myths of capitalism

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Do you think your corporate overlords are just going to hand out cash after laying you off?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Who are they going to get to buy they're shit?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] [S] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    You are confusing work with labour. Having a job isn't natural, but doing stuff is. And if you actually stop doing stuff - i. e. just lie in bed, doing nothing - your body quickly start to suffer and then pretty much decompose.

    I would go as far as to say you need labour to be healthy. You need some kind of physical labour (be that sport, gym or something else) to be fit, and for your body to function properly. And you need to use your head to not be bored and go insane - to read, to think, to solve problems etc

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Yes! It's incredibly telling when someone speaks positively of the concept of work, it's not noble, it's not necessary, it's not good. We've spent millions of years trying to cut labor out of existence, even before we were humans we were avoiding doing more. We invented cooking to avoid labor, less obvious labor, but still. The wheel wasn't made so we could do more, it was made so the labor we needed to do was easier. And that's just labor, work as we know it is a modern (relatively speaking, the timescale is massive) invention that made labor way worse.

    LLMs aren't actually useful for replacing any kind of labor, though, and too many idiots don't even make the connection that the thing that makes them hate most of their lives is bad.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Don't confuse labor with work

    Labor is pretty much the most noble thing you can think of. Doing art, poetry, music, healing people, teaching kids - all of this is labor, and it is very noble.

    As I said in the other reply, labor IS natural, and without it your body will literally die.

    As for progress, we literally did stuff to do more (and that's why in part LLMs arent that useful). Cooking was invented (or more like discovered?) to have more calories or to save more food for longer. Because it's actually more labor to find a place, make a fire there, make all the stuff you need for cooking and then cook things right. It's much easier to just eat your pray raw, but it's less calories (because it's harder to digest) and it spoils faster. And dont make me started on preserving stuff.

    Wheel was invented to haul more cargo, for longer. Computer aided manufacturing was made so one person can make more, and faster.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago*

    I'm heartened by your reply.

    there's a point to be made on the other hand that the wheel made industrialization possible and we all know how that worked out for the people who refused laboring for wages. not all cultures even needed wheels because their local geographies didn't necessitate using wheeled transport. that doesn't mean they didn't use wheels for other applications though.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent