The lawsuit aims to "stop Valve from promoting gambling features in its games, disgorge all ill-gotten gains, and pay fines for violating New York\u2019s laws."

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[–] 18 points 6 months ago (12 children)

I quit playing games with loot boxes. Having said that my experience and valve with loot boxes were they were cosmetic only. I may be wrong about that.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Cosmetic or not, they are still mechanically the same as a slot machine.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Not mechanically the same at all. The reason they can skirt by and have not been considered 'gambling' is largely due to the fact that you always win something, even if the player to player market dictates that item as worthless.

    A slot machine literally just takes your money and you are left with nothing but having pushed a button for the pretty lights and fun noises.

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  • [+] -9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Not same lol, trust me, not even close...

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe not to you, but you don't speak for all of humanity.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    They are only cosmetic, but absolutely still gambling. That said, the design and use of the market and operations did mean it was far easier to avoid and far cheaper. For example, you could get basically a full loadout of skins, without ever opening a lootbox, for far less. Doesn't change the fact that the lootboxes in CS (and everything else) need to be regulated though.

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