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[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Oh man, when they get native mobile apps, I'm looking to switch my Mattermost server to Fluxer. I've had good luck with Mattermost, but its not truly OSS and its been moving features over to paid enterprise accounts so the time is soon.

https://web.dev/learn/pwa/installation

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[–] odelik@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago

You don't need a native mobile app to use the Progressive Web App (PWA) installation.

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[–] Bonje@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

As much as I like a lot of the discord alternatives out there I fear they will all eventually face the same fate. Decentralised or someone wrapping the signal protocol into a discord like client is probably the only way to avoid this again.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Fluxer plans federation in the future, and its AGPL licensed.

However, it's still in beta, and the backend's ability to scale is currently unproven.

For something that's more proven, we have Movim, which is already federated with the open standard XMPP protocol.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

So when all your friends want to screenshare on somewhere else, they install Movim and then sign up on...

And then when they jump into chats, will they be able to search the room history and post memes (images)?

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 7 points 7 months ago*

Yep :D

It has full searchable room history, can upload memes (gifs from either links like giphy or directly uploaded), images, video files (playable within the chat), and audio messages.

There's also a built in paint-like thing that lets you draw directly into the chat, or annotate documents, pictures, or memes.

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[–] zewm@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Well I mean Fluxer is open source and have self hosting options on their roadmap. 🤷‍♂️

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[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 1 point 7 months ago

I'm still hopeful about https://veilid.com/ but I suspect that's a long way out; the protocol is still in development stages, let alone implementations of it.

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[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 1 point 7 months ago

Fluxer is going to be federated, it's on their roadmap.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Is fluxer as network f'ed up as Discord without the minimum democratic standard of human readable domains, or is it the slavery of dozens of undocumented raw IP addresses?

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Honestly I have no idea yet, as I only heard of it and signed up last night. I am optimistic though..

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[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

What do you mean with that in regards to Discord?

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago*

Check DNS logs. Discord is proprietary undocumented garbage that connects to dozens of raw IP addresses that have no documentation, rhyme, or reasoning. You have no clue what or who is connected in that mess of garbage, or why they are there.

It is about like, I'm going to give you access to a phone, a special phone, it just works.

It is a prison phone. You are in prison when you use it... technically. But you don't really "see" the "place". The other inmates are all around you. They see you, but you don't see them. Never mind that though, the phone just works. Lots of people love that phone. Nobody asks questions. Just use the phone and pay no attention to all the rest. It will be fine.

Business model? Viability? Never mind all of that. Don't ask questions like that. The numbers do not add up in the slightest. That is the magic of prisons. Justice costs a lot, but it is worth it right. Magic phone is easy. Ask no questions. Expect no answers. Totally normal, everyone is doing it.

The whole thing is a mass of clueless zombie morons that ask no questions and have no idea who what or why they are connected to with all those raw IP addresses. They all give trust blindly without accountability or understanding.