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yahknow, if it wern't for the fact that i know they're a scummy company, i'd try them.
just wait patiently for valve to make some
... Spoiler for you, but Valve is a shitty company.
Edit: whoosh the fanbois are out there! We don't share the same value if you think it's ok for 10 years old to become gambling addicts because of Valve's practices.
I deleted my Reddit account because it is increasingly becoming an echo chamber cesspool of extreme centrism. I was hoping Lemmy would be somehow better with people more prone to discuss. Ho, well
name your top 5 good companies
I imagine you're focused on for-profit companies
Irrelevant.
Maybe just maybe it's because it's not as black or white as you make it seem? Especially talking about a company that did so much for Linux and looking at what their competition is doing....
So it's ok for you to have 10 years old developing a gambling habit and potentially ruining their live, because hey they are pushing Linux in gaming?
Did valve create the gambling games you mention?
Yes.
I'm curious as to which ones you're talking about.
I feel like you're straw-manning here.
I never said it's okay. All I'm saying is that a mega-corporation can simultaneously exploit psychological loopholes for profit (loot boxes) while actively pushing open-source ecosystems (Linux), providing great value to consumers and fighting other pc gaming monopolies (Microsoft). Look at the whole picture.
Do you consider that it is morally acceptable to push thousands of kids into gambling addiction because you are doing more than Microsoft for Linux in the gaming world?
So you're saying that since a company is reprehensible in one area, all their other accomplishments should be judged accordingly?
Makes sense to me.
Answer the question.
I don't like your attitude. I'm agreeing with you that it is not morally acceptable , and an actor should be judged by the worst of what they're currently doing, not just sweep it under the rug.
Thank you. Yeah, I can be pretty confrontational sometimes.
I wish you a nice day. See you around!
It's not.
Look, you are not necessarily wrong in holding the opinion that Valve's monetization practices are so horrible, that they ruin the company's entire reputation. It's a valid moral boundary. But at the end of the day, it's just an opinion, not some objective law of the universe and other people can weigh the scales differently without being an evil person. Yet you portray it as the TRUTH. And it's a bit ironic, that when people disagreed you started talking about echo chambers and attacking the community. This is why you got downvoted.
Wtf is wrong with you, lot? It seems like when you say "valve is a shitty company" is the equivalent of saying "gaben is evil incarnate and eats baby for breakfast".
I'm starting to get sick of red pilled people commenting here saying it is an extremist view to say that a company is shitty because they have shitty practices. I'm done responding if that's your comment, so spare us both time. All you're doing is either purposefully misinterpreting my comment or acting like fan boys.
It's not difficult or controversial. Does valve make some good things? Yes. Do they make shitty things? Yes. Not hard.
Plus, I truly think most of the people here are completely ignorant of the issue and should probably look into Coffeezilla series before commenting.
You just stated the exact nuanced position I was defending from the very beginning, while simultaneously insulting me for holding it ๐
No, you cannot say that Valve is a shitty company. And your entire post is trying to make it sound like saying it is an extremist point of view.
Sounds to me like a parenting issue, not a valve issue.
I agree with you, but I get where the rabid fanboyism is coming from. The lack of competition in tech due to a variety of bullshit reasons (mostly corruption, look what Biden's FTC was trying to do compared to Trump 2's mask-off approach) have people pissed off and angry at the monopolists. Valve just so happens to be the least-bad monopolist in tech, so people like them.
People need to get competition-pilled, so they realize that Valve isn't our savior, and are in fact part of the problem too. They might be considered "good" today, but that's because our standards have never been so low.
Things can be, and should be better.
i can see why you are banned, posting misinformation/disinformation with nothing to back it uo with.
https://youtu.be/v6jhjjVy5Ls
Now I'll wait for you to apologize and and acknowledge you did not have any idea of what you were talking about before commenting. I'll let you throw day, so you can go through the entire series.
it's been like that for years, you act like valve was the masterminded the gambling sites, crazy.
Ho, so because it's been like that, it's ok?
Edit: don't even bother answering, you're a clown.
Selective reader I see, another reason why you were disliked on reddit to the point you felt the need to move on, I'll assume this goes for a lot of other places as well based on your disposition when talking with not only me but others on here.
Go paint some minis and find a new 4chan dude, only place you'll fit in without an atitude adjustment.
How are they shitty. You can't claim their bad without explaining why, I think you just don't like the fact some people actually respect a company rather then hate on them like the rest.
Already done and don't assume nothing of me.
I get why people like Valve so much (I like some of their services too) but there's too much deification. It's like "oh mighty Gabe!". I get some of it was tongue-in-cheek a bit initially but it seems so many people take it seriously.
They're a company that provides some services I like but the gambling shit is bad especially when you see people on YT talking about how they were lured in when they young and how much money was lost and how many streamers were running scam companies. It's not good.
(I'm guessing the two downvoters love teenagers gambling SO much)
Lol
Why? Are they useful for anything other than proping up surveillance state?
Like a gopro for sports
That actually sounds badass if there was an option to not connect to anything else and also made by an ethical company.
Nope
What's the different between that and everyone having their phone's out all the time, those little guys are already able to spy on, you know they do stuff other then record stuff right, they get text readout on the lenses and stuff right? Also can you not read, I specificly wrote I wouldn't getting because of their bad reputation.