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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (8 children)

That Index 01 is atrocious; shame on whoever bought one.

I don't have a particluar need for the Index 01, but I can imagine a good number of people that would benefit from it. Its not particularly glamours but I'm not seeing it as particularly offensive in styling either. What do you find atrocious about it?

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[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 3 points 6 months ago (7 children)

It's a throwaway item, it's unethical.

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[+] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago*

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I assume you mean because it will eventually wear out its battery and be unserviceable? If so, how is that different than the Pebble watch itself?

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[–] narp@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I think the ring is not rechargeable at all..

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* (3 children)

It looks like Index 01 has a 2 year (24 month) battery. Apple airpods, while rechargable, have a unit life of 36 months or as short as 18 months (with heavy use).

I assume, following the same logic, airpods would be unethical? If so, in your opinion, how long should a device last before it wouldn’t be unethical?

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[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Airpods batteries can be replaced, and parts are available on ifixit.

Index isn't released yet, so maybe there will be a ifixit page created for them. but if the silver oxide batteries are as bad as the ones my mom's hearing aids use, I can't see this thing lasting more than a year.

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[–] coltn@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 months ago

No matter what, whether it's pebble or apple, non-serviceable batteries are "atrocious" and "unethical". While expected from apple; it would be nice to expect more from pebble.

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[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 1 point 6 months ago

They are unethical because they're hard to repair, but cam be used after discharging, while the ring will just become trash.

The two years will only be reachable by using it little, which defeats its purpose, as well.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

I could’ve probably sold it on eBay for a nice profit, but I’m not THAT kind of asshole.

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[–] yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

Instead of that kind of asshole you can be the kind that shames anyone getting something you don't understand. My first reaction to the ring was one of surprise, but not in a positive way. When I saw the video presentation by migikovsky I started to see certain appeal and use cases. Which made me bring up the ring to my wife.

My wife is diagnosed with ADHD and some other neurospicy stuff. I bought her a pebble together with mine, thinking it would be useful for her too, but she nearly never used it. I believe that ring might actually have a lot of worth for someone like her. When I told her about it, it surprised me how fast she was interested in the idea. Like she is the opposite of me with tech, not only she doesn't like tech and she is not particularly interested in anything related to it, but she has a negative aura around tech that somehow keeps making things malfunction in ways I cannot understand. Something this simple... Something she can forget about charging or anything... That is not terrible. With the theoretical duration of the battery, it might outlast many devices that can be charged and still get discarded after a while.

You don't need to want it or like it, to understand that others might find it useful.

The aspect of the unchargeable battery is a pity... But I can understand the decision making there even if I don't like it. Hopefully in a future version there is some way to include some wireless charging or something... Alternatively I would want to see a similar ring, but without the mic. Just a button, that connects to the pebble watch, to launched actions using the button. Could even just use the pebble's mic by pressing the button. I wonder how long the battery would last if the microphone is not used and just launches an action in the watch. There's a lot more depth to such a simple device than it appears.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There's absolutely no depth to the fact that the Index contributes to the already sky-high pile of e-waste by design. A device that isn't really that innovative; small voice recorders have existed for decades. Yes, it's convenient to have it in ring form I guess but having convenience at the cost of the environment is exactly the problem.

I didn't mean to offend anyone or be that harsh really, I just said that to vent my frustrations without thinking too much about it to be honest. I kinda do that from time to time. My apologies for that; it's something that I've been working on.