▲ 1107 ▼ Firefox is ending support for Windows 7, 8 and 8.1, and users are urged to switch to Linux (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 6 months ago by ryujin470@fedia.io to c/technology@lemmy.world 205 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago (1 child) Can confirm ctrl-shift-c opens dev console I keep mixing up the shortcuts because ctrl-shift-c is copy in the KDE terminal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) This behavior isn't unique to KDE’s Konsole; many others share it. Since Ctrl + C performs an entirely different function in most Linux terminals/shells, Firefox’s default behavior feels out of place. It’s admittedly a niche problem, but to me, it looks like an 'alien' in the Linux world. EDIT: Thinking about it, this is actually exactly how GNU software usually works: set a weird default behavior so that people are incentivized to figure out how the software actually works just to change it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Also incentivizes people to not use it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Unless Google's search AI lied to me (and surely it would never do that) this is all Apple's fault anyway. They are the one's that highjacked Ctrl+c for the copy function. Unfortunately, that has become ingrained now everywhere other than the Linux terminal. And as Gui interfaces have improved over the years, average users are spending less time there, and Ctrl+shift+c has become the option that feels out of place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 2 points 6 months ago Yeah potentially it would be easier/more concise if I'd adjust my terminal/shell to remap the crtl+c , crtl +shift +c behavior instead of demanding the whole world revert a decision made in the last century. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jqubed@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago But copy is Command+C on macOS and iOS, not Ctrl+C. Maybe in the Classic Mac OS days, but I doubt they would’ve made such a significant change moving to OS X. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) This behavior isn't unique to KDE’s Konsole; many others share it. Since Ctrl + C performs an entirely different function in most Linux terminals/shells, Firefox’s default behavior feels out of place. It’s admittedly a niche problem, but to me, it looks like an 'alien' in the Linux world. EDIT: Thinking about it, this is actually exactly how GNU software usually works: set a weird default behavior so that people are incentivized to figure out how the software actually works just to change it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Also incentivizes people to not use it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Unless Google's search AI lied to me (and surely it would never do that) this is all Apple's fault anyway. They are the one's that highjacked Ctrl+c for the copy function. Unfortunately, that has become ingrained now everywhere other than the Linux terminal. And as Gui interfaces have improved over the years, average users are spending less time there, and Ctrl+shift+c has become the option that feels out of place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 2 points 6 months ago Yeah potentially it would be easier/more concise if I'd adjust my terminal/shell to remap the crtl+c , crtl +shift +c behavior instead of demanding the whole world revert a decision made in the last century. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jqubed@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago But copy is Command+C on macOS and iOS, not Ctrl+C. Maybe in the Classic Mac OS days, but I doubt they would’ve made such a significant change moving to OS X. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Also incentivizes people to not use it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Unless Google's search AI lied to me (and surely it would never do that) this is all Apple's fault anyway. They are the one's that highjacked Ctrl+c for the copy function. Unfortunately, that has become ingrained now everywhere other than the Linux terminal. And as Gui interfaces have improved over the years, average users are spending less time there, and Ctrl+shift+c has become the option that feels out of place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 2 points 6 months ago Yeah potentially it would be easier/more concise if I'd adjust my terminal/shell to remap the crtl+c , crtl +shift +c behavior instead of demanding the whole world revert a decision made in the last century. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jqubed@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago But copy is Command+C on macOS and iOS, not Ctrl+C. Maybe in the Classic Mac OS days, but I doubt they would’ve made such a significant change moving to OS X. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 2 points 6 months ago Yeah potentially it would be easier/more concise if I'd adjust my terminal/shell to remap the crtl+c , crtl +shift +c behavior instead of demanding the whole world revert a decision made in the last century. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago But copy is Command+C on macOS and iOS, not Ctrl+C. Maybe in the Classic Mac OS days, but I doubt they would’ve made such a significant change moving to OS X. permalink fedilink source parent