Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

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[+] -18 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

They fully support the Russian invasion and genocide of Ukraine though, hence the hypocrisy.

Did you know that inventing "genocides" based on perceived vibes and presenting them as equivalent to extremely real, well-documented, and universally agreed upon actual genocides is a form of genocide denial? Liberals such as yourself have been doing the work of fascists like this for a long time, this type of Holocaust denial is called "double genocide theory".

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Do you know what the word "allegation" means?

    Do you also insist there's a genocide in South Africa?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Is your name Lenin Weave after the way you dodge criticism?

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    accuses me of dodging criticism for making a very specific argument about how treating substantiated and unsubstantiated accusations of genocide as equivalent is a form of genocide denial without addressing the argument at all

    Somehow, you don't see the irony.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    You weren't criticizing me, I am just watching you dodge theirs.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago*

    I didn't dodge theirs, I directly addressed it. Their "criticism" is a form of genocide denial. They are fabricating "equivalent" atrocities to a real genocide. Similarly, your "neutral observer" trick here is a cheap way to pretend you're not taking a side in an argument so that you can dodge criticism of the side you are picking. See the irony?

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