606
Trigger warning - This Epstein stuff is making me sick... (thelemmy.club)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
183 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I have spent hours looking through the files and some of the stories are absolutely disgusting. I am having such a hard time because so many citizens don't even know how awful they get and they aren't all even fully released... I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won't actually do anything... He had a ranch where a witness wrote in saying there are TWO bodies located on the property and they haven't even reported that in the media. I'll link that one below too. It's just so... Horrible. We can't just pretend this doesn't exist... but idk what happens next for the United States and the world. It's not something a country just moves on from.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00078198.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01249507.pdf

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 13 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won’t actually do anything

You think we need pitchforks, torches, and shovels? They are armed with guns.

Typing on a forum won't do anything. Shouting real loud won't do anything. Protests won't do anything.

You can't appeal to a horde of psychopaths. Narcissists and sociopaths and psychopaths do not give a shit about you, and they never well. They would happily step over your dead corpse as they climb the Congressional steps to vote that day.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    As an observation, I spent a while in France and I noticed something different about them. They don't put up with shit from their government. If a law is passed that many disagree with, they just don't comply. They refused to accept, for example, vehicle clamping. The government passed it anyway, so they started handling out kits to help people unlock them. People distributed them freely and would actively free any car they saw clamped. They tried to stop them smoking outside cafes. Zero compliance. Maybe it's a hangover from The Revolution, but I found this attitude heartening.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The pitchforks are a metaphor, obviously.

    I'm not sure what point you're getting at. We shouldn't try to do anything, because the guilty are too powerful?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    We shouldn’t try to do anything, because the guilty are too powerful?

    No. I'm saying we've had far too many false hope protests that have wasted decades of time and uncountable resources, and the people in power are literally incapable of the empathy involved to produce results. In fact, the latest craze in right-wing doctrine is calling empathy a weakness, just to make sure any vestiges that still exist within their voters is excised out.

    If you want to do something, do something more forceful. These people only care about a few things: not losing their fortunes, not losing their freedom, and not dying. If you can make them afraid for one or more of those things, pursue that.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Your first post read as doomerism to me, but it sounds like quite the opposite actually. We need to organize hard and build something off the back of this horrible state of affairs, right? Maybe something like a general strike until those identified in the documents are behind bars?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    I saw my naivete during the George Floyd protests when state police came to my city with blacked out badges and punisher masks.

    They are HEAVILY armed.

    It's a nice sentiment for garden tools but you need actual firearms. Regrettably, I've yet to go to a major protest since trump has been in office. Somewhat a relief since we know now they are using footage to put protesters in terroist databases. If you aren't going to protests even partially in black bloc you are ill prepared. If you aren't arming yourself you are ill equipped.

    I hope this ends, yet I have zero faith in peaceful protests to stop a fascist regime. I'm not saying don't protest, I am explicitly saying that force must be met in kind. When winter ends I anticipate things escalating and heating up a lot more.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent