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[–] 24 points 7 months ago* (49 children)

As a European, I have to say that the libs in this example are right, because the US voting system is completely fucked with the electoral college, winner-takes-all and all that gerrymandering (and soon more).

So they either have to vote dem (however bad their candidate is) and then unfuck it, so they can do a real election afterwards, or violently install a leftist government and proper democracy.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (22 children)

    Tried it voted Biden, who didn't want to leave power even while he was losing it occasionally. Eventually when he did stop running, it was Kamala who thought it would be better to court right.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    Yup. The Democratic party leadership is either so inept that they think a strong economy is a replacement for social welfare at home and abroad or they're actively working to fill the same pockets as the right.

    They (dem leadership) cave on these shutdowns because they got their PR and they're fine being fascist as the alternative would impact their bank account.

    I hope I'm wrong this time, i would be so happy to be wrong, but it seems insane to expect the pattern to change under the same leadership.

    Edit: changed my mind on wording.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    LOL 'the leadership'
    It's the whole Dem party, which is one asscheek of the uniparty that is the problem.
    You people wil never learn.
    Trying to 'fix' that party, trying to 'push it to the left' or whatever futile thing you undertake while it's working perfectly the way it's intended.
    This already for centuries and a consistent history of screwing the people and serving their olligarchs.
    Yet americans are incapable of thinking outside their box, don't know better and keep chasing rainbows.
    Pathetic and sad.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    "Dem leadership" is just accessible language for the libs. Otherwise they assume you didn't vote and scream at you for being the problem because the only solution is voting dem and anything else is helping the right.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Otherwise they assume you didn’t vote and scream at you for being the problem because the only solution is voting dem and anything else is helping the right.

    They assume that about everyone to their left no matter what.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It's language deliberately chosen to make a distinction between the party and leadership.
    With the purpose of sneakily and falsely implying the party can be fixed with different leadership.

    It is the same tactics used by Kibbuts Bernie the snake who invariably uses 'the Netanyahoo government' and not israel.
    Falsely implying that when he's gone that genocider country will be a normal democracy.
    He knows very well they have been mass-murdering Palestinians since the beginning and will continue after him.
    Same as the Dems have always screwed their gullible voters and will continue doing so for as long as they exist.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    You thought Copmala, with ther horrible record and from the same horrible party would be better?
    What are you americans smoking?

    Your 2 party system has been ridiculed even by Marx, that's how long you suckers have been falling for this shit.
    Even now they can't wait to go back to it.
    You all deserve what you get.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Your 2 party system has been ridiculed even by Marx,

    Sauce please.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

    The Civil War in France - Karl Marx

    Nowhere do "politicians" form a more separate, powerful section of the nation than in North America. There, each of the two great parties which alternately succeed each other in power is itself in turn controlled by people who make a business of politics,....

    ....and nevertheless we find here two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt ends -- and the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians, who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality exploit and plunder it.

    From 1870!, wake TF up and educate yourself americans!
    Read more Marx!

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    from 1870

    Hate to be that guy, but those were two entirely different parties.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    You hate to be that petty guy scavenging through my comments and following me around for a chance to put in a negative comment?
    Right, fuck off

    And no they weren't

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (4 children)

    I guess I should tag you so I notice, but I literally didn't even read your user name.

    I just reply to what I feel like replying to. I guess this is a small site. I have never once looked at your comment history.

    I don't even think about you bro. I promise you.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Sure, that's why you harrass me with BS on 3 different subjects in 2 days.
    Piss off.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Buddy, I'm not harassing anyone, I'm just commenting on random shit without looking at usernames.

    For fuck sake dude, I don't even remember who the fuck you are. Why would I even bother reading your history, let alone harass you?

    You. Are. Not. Important. To. Me.

    This is a small site. If you can't handle seeing the same people again and again, then you should leave

    Or do us both a favor and fucking block me.

    Edit: it honestly feels like you're the one harassing me at this point. Leave me the fuck alone.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    LOL either you're insane (good possibility) and you don't know who you commented on dozens of times, while you lost your shit or you are again playing dumb.
    I would block you but then I wouldn't know if you comment some BS about me again since you're some deranged stalker.
    You should block me if you want to pretend to be the victim here.
    So fuck off

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Hey thanks for delaying Trump's second term those four years. I spent those four years helping My partner recover from its crippling disabilities and working on My career. I don't know if we're going to be in a financial place to get it out of the US before Trump sends ICE after trans disabled people and puts it in a concentration camp, but because of you we have a chance. Keep up the good work.

    As a side note, do you think a GoFundMe to get it out of the country and to My country would get much traction?

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (22 children)

    So, that's been the tactic for a bunch of decades now. How's that been going for the working class?

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (21 children)

    For a bunch of decades, they haven't been executed on the streets in broad daylight. How is it going now?

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Pretty fucking poorly, which is why I'm not crazy about the strategy we've been using for the past decades. You understand these events didn't just happen out of nowhere, right? They're a result of the things that happened before them.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Yes, electing the 34 criminal traitor pedophile.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Real "if a democrat were doing this we'd be at brunch right now" energy.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    As long as they don't wear a tan suit, right?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    As long as they don't drone strike entire weddings in Yemen, as long as they don't explicitly protect the torturers of Abu Ghraib, as long as they don't pass a copy of Romneycare but more right wing, as long as they don't send 40B to a nation actively engaged in ethnic cleansing, as long as they don't expand upon and set the stage for worsening the border policy that is already draconian, as long as they don't send care packages to bankers responsible for the economy tanking. When will you moronic liberals get it through your thick fucking skulls that this is not about optics but about policy. Jesus fucking christ

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    The problem with your logic though is you think it just started one day. We've been on this road for a while. Trump doesn't exist without Bill Clinton's deregulation spree. Donald Trump wouldn't nearly be this powerful without Obama's expansion of the surveillance state. Neoliberals have contributed to what we're seeing right now and it's important not to forget that. During the Bush Administration all the neoliberals voted for the Patriot Act which basically created everything that's killing people in the street right now.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    Yeah, except they didn't use it to kill people. The crime is not buying the car, or sharpening the knife, the crime is driving somewhere and stabbing people.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Yeah, except they didn’t use it to kill people.

    And they never asked themselves what would happen when it inevitably fell into nefarious hands. Because neoliberals exist to prepare a comfortable environment for fascism to flourish in.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Again, making knifes and selling knifes is not a crime. Stabbing people is.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Taking commissions to make knives from people wearing shirts that say "I'm going to stab you as soon as you make me a knife" isn't a crime. But it's foolish and gets you stabbed.

    Which is why you support anyone who does it.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Those regulations existed for decades, sometimes centuries, and it were lobbied for by Trump or project 2025.

    Nobody was wearing that t-shirt.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    When the regulations were put in place, people who saw shit like this coming tried to warn you. But centrists don't listen to anyone not named netanyahu, so they barreled ahead.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    They were absolutely killing people you're out of mind if you think otherwise.

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  • [+] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Obama literally assinated American citizens. And don't forget that people have died in the same types of camps before when his man Tom Homann was working for him. Its all connected.

    Also neoliberals being okay murdering innocent people just cause they werent born here being old news is also the same problem.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    As a european i have to say that we have plenty of idiots and fascists in power here too. As long as people get their information from biased and corrupted sources they will never know who to vote for in a democracy other than the figures that get advertised the most.

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