▲ 346 ▼ Fairphone 5 - The Ars Technica Review (arstechnica.com) submitted 3 years ago by Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world to c/android@lemmy.world 153 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) The answer to this problem is better wireless headphones permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (2 children) Because what lithium ion battery last forever? They're well degraded after a few years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) So stop using electronics? We’re talking about a phone with its own batteries. I understand your point but Fairphone can’t solve every sustainability and e-waste problem with a single device. Not buying this phone, assuming you buy a different, less sustainable phone, is a net negative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The phone has a removable battery. Not one that you need to break the device apart and unsolder everything to get to it, like almost all headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Again, this is an argument for better headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well tell that to Fairphone, they're only selling shitty e-waste ones instead of providing a headphone jack. But do let me know who is making in-ear earphones with a removable battery. Not massive over the head cows. Portable earphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For those buy a dongle. This is not a reason to force a headphone jack on every phone. If it were a modular option, sure who cares. But “every phone needs a jack so some people don’t have to use alternatives” isn’t a good point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack. Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle". If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) They could create less e-waste by including a headphone jack and not removing it cause they wanna sell their own wireless headphones. Its a simple money move. And I don't wanna support a company like that even if in theory their message is just. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It’s also in keeping with the entire industry. “I don’t want to use a USB-C dongle” isn’t a principled stance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've made plenty of other good points for why the headphone jack should be still included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -3 points 3 years ago You’ve certainly made plenty of points about it permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago So use a AAA or something like my old pair did. We just need better Bluetooth headphones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (2 children) Because what lithium ion battery last forever? They're well degraded after a few years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) So stop using electronics? We’re talking about a phone with its own batteries. I understand your point but Fairphone can’t solve every sustainability and e-waste problem with a single device. Not buying this phone, assuming you buy a different, less sustainable phone, is a net negative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The phone has a removable battery. Not one that you need to break the device apart and unsolder everything to get to it, like almost all headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Again, this is an argument for better headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well tell that to Fairphone, they're only selling shitty e-waste ones instead of providing a headphone jack. But do let me know who is making in-ear earphones with a removable battery. Not massive over the head cows. Portable earphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For those buy a dongle. This is not a reason to force a headphone jack on every phone. If it were a modular option, sure who cares. But “every phone needs a jack so some people don’t have to use alternatives” isn’t a good point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack. Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle". If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) They could create less e-waste by including a headphone jack and not removing it cause they wanna sell their own wireless headphones. Its a simple money move. And I don't wanna support a company like that even if in theory their message is just. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It’s also in keeping with the entire industry. “I don’t want to use a USB-C dongle” isn’t a principled stance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've made plenty of other good points for why the headphone jack should be still included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -3 points 3 years ago You’ve certainly made plenty of points about it permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago So use a AAA or something like my old pair did. We just need better Bluetooth headphones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) So stop using electronics? We’re talking about a phone with its own batteries. I understand your point but Fairphone can’t solve every sustainability and e-waste problem with a single device. Not buying this phone, assuming you buy a different, less sustainable phone, is a net negative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The phone has a removable battery. Not one that you need to break the device apart and unsolder everything to get to it, like almost all headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Again, this is an argument for better headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well tell that to Fairphone, they're only selling shitty e-waste ones instead of providing a headphone jack. But do let me know who is making in-ear earphones with a removable battery. Not massive over the head cows. Portable earphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For those buy a dongle. This is not a reason to force a headphone jack on every phone. If it were a modular option, sure who cares. But “every phone needs a jack so some people don’t have to use alternatives” isn’t a good point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack. Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle". If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) They could create less e-waste by including a headphone jack and not removing it cause they wanna sell their own wireless headphones. Its a simple money move. And I don't wanna support a company like that even if in theory their message is just. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It’s also in keeping with the entire industry. “I don’t want to use a USB-C dongle” isn’t a principled stance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've made plenty of other good points for why the headphone jack should be still included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -3 points 3 years ago You’ve certainly made plenty of points about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The phone has a removable battery. Not one that you need to break the device apart and unsolder everything to get to it, like almost all headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Again, this is an argument for better headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well tell that to Fairphone, they're only selling shitty e-waste ones instead of providing a headphone jack. But do let me know who is making in-ear earphones with a removable battery. Not massive over the head cows. Portable earphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For those buy a dongle. This is not a reason to force a headphone jack on every phone. If it were a modular option, sure who cares. But “every phone needs a jack so some people don’t have to use alternatives” isn’t a good point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack. Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle". If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Again, this is an argument for better headphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well tell that to Fairphone, they're only selling shitty e-waste ones instead of providing a headphone jack. But do let me know who is making in-ear earphones with a removable battery. Not massive over the head cows. Portable earphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For those buy a dongle. This is not a reason to force a headphone jack on every phone. If it were a modular option, sure who cares. But “every phone needs a jack so some people don’t have to use alternatives” isn’t a good point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack. Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle". If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well tell that to Fairphone, they're only selling shitty e-waste ones instead of providing a headphone jack. But do let me know who is making in-ear earphones with a removable battery. Not massive over the head cows. Portable earphones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For those buy a dongle. This is not a reason to force a headphone jack on every phone. If it were a modular option, sure who cares. But “every phone needs a jack so some people don’t have to use alternatives” isn’t a good point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack. Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle". If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For those buy a dongle. This is not a reason to force a headphone jack on every phone. If it were a modular option, sure who cares. But “every phone needs a jack so some people don’t have to use alternatives” isn’t a good point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack. Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle". If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack. Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle". If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) They could create less e-waste by including a headphone jack and not removing it cause they wanna sell their own wireless headphones. Its a simple money move. And I don't wanna support a company like that even if in theory their message is just. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It’s also in keeping with the entire industry. “I don’t want to use a USB-C dongle” isn’t a principled stance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've made plenty of other good points for why the headphone jack should be still included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -3 points 3 years ago You’ve certainly made plenty of points about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It’s also in keeping with the entire industry. “I don’t want to use a USB-C dongle” isn’t a principled stance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've made plenty of other good points for why the headphone jack should be still included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -3 points 3 years ago You’ve certainly made plenty of points about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArtificialLink@yall.theatl.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've made plenty of other good points for why the headphone jack should be still included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -3 points 3 years ago You’ve certainly made plenty of points about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -3 points 3 years ago You’ve certainly made plenty of points about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago So use a AAA or something like my old pair did. We just need better Bluetooth headphones. permalink fedilink source parent