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US supreme court rules against affirmative action in Harvard and UNC cases (kbin.social)
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From The Guardian

So Affirmative Action is basically dead for college admissions, further dismantling Civil Rights era legislation.

Way to go, SCOTUS. /s

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[–] 2 points 3 years ago* (7 children)

Trying to create equitable outcomes for people who our great grandparents ripped from their home, deleted their cultural and familial history, tortured and raped them, bought and sold them as property, and forced them to work for free essentially at gunpoint, for generations, is not racism.

Words have meaning. Pushing back against the results of 400 years of systemic oppression to try to create equitable outcomes is the opposite of racism.

People like yourself don't even understand what affirmative action is in reality. Either that, or all of the talk about undeserving minorities "stealing" positions from white people is in bad faith.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (6 children)

    Trying to create equitable outcomes for people who our great grandparents ripped from their home, deleted their cultural and familial history, tortured and raped them, bought and sold them as property, and forced them to work for free essentially at gunpoint, for generations, is not racism.

    If you're using racism to achieve those outcomes, it is racism, discriminating Asians in favors of black for college admissions is racism, you can try to rationalize it however you want, but this was plain racism, the people that got discriminated by AA today don't and have never owned a black slave, the people who benefit from AA today are not and have never been slaves, i am sorry but they ancestors had it shitty, but that's not excuse to hurt people today just to pay some sort of moral debt.

    Words have meaning. Pushing back against the results of 400 years of systemic oppression to try to create equitable outcomes is the opposite of racism.

    No, you are not "pushing back", you are just replacing racism you don't like, with racism you do like while trying to appear to have the moral high ground, you are a hypocrite.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    This would be a good point if it weren't for all of the systemic racism that tilts the scales towards white people from before the birth of the country into the present day.

    Slavery, Jim Crow, chain gangs, loitering laws, segregation, redlining, political violence, lynching, the war on drugs, the school to prison pipeline, school districts funded by local property taxes, longer criminal sentences for black people, school voucher programs, outlawing the teaching of black history.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    No one is denying that these things did happen, but the problem here is that your "solution" for systemic racism, is to apply systemic racism to other races in benefit of minorities, now if you want to argue "oh but we must do so because every bad thing that happened to these minorities!" then you aren't actually fighting to end systemic racism, what you actually want is to have that power for yourselves, you want to be able to discriminate and suffer no consequences for this, in other words, this is pretty much revenge for what happened back then.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, if you support committing injustice just to compensate the victims of previous injustices, you're no different than the original criminal.

    You people are hypocrites

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    As a white, I think whites should be ground into bread. They should be shot into space as bread where they can expand to fit the container they're placed in while in microgravity. This isn't hypocrisy, it's cosmic baking. Get in the rocket with me, brother.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, i don't think you're well in the head if you actually believe this... so i'm going to say no.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You would rob yourself of the glory of living as interstellar bread? Being baked to a golden brown by cosmic radiation while aimlessly shooting across the void infinite?

    Join me, our bodies no longer bounded by our form. We expand, yeast eating sugar, producing alcohol and carbon dioxide. We intermingle, no longer you, no longer me. Just intimately bread, endlessly bread.

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