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Rent is theft (thelemmy.club)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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[–] -5 points 7 months ago* (11 children)

immigrants are wonderful and perfect but only if they are struggling and oppressed.

until they own homes. then they are evil oppressors who are destroying society with their greed.

immigrants should just learn place and forever rent and be miserable and poor so they can joint the glorious proletariat revolution! not be evil greedy capitalists who want to provide for their kids!

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Liberal encounters the concept of class status for the first time

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    what class status are you?

    do you intend to forever be that status, or do you aspire to become a higher status?

    i've been multiple status and i know people from all different statuses over the year. they are far more alike than they are different and most people who swap status become the thing they claimed to hate when they were poor.

    and a lot of people are straight up delusional wrong about their status. I've met people who have millions of dollars who think they are struggling working-class people. I have family members who have about 50 million dollars, who think they are poor working class proletariat, just like you do. Same family who also lecture me about what a rich snob I am when my net worth is about 1/100th of theirs. I also have had friends and romantic partners who grew up poorer than I did, who think I'm a poor loser piece of shit because the home I own is only worth about 500K, meanwhile they had no home and 100K+ of debt and they blame everyone but themselves for their self-imposed poverty, while claiming those who are more objectively successful than they are, are all poor losers because they aren't richer.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    EXCELLENT POINT. "Class status" is not anything objectively measurable. Wealth is.

    I aspire to be independent. To be free to do art and sell it without worrying about food or housing.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    you are applying immunity of criticism of a persons actions, based on what a person is.

    Land lords owning more properties then they need taking them off the market causes systemic harm. at no point in that equation did their status as an immigrant or not, have any bearing on the action nor the outcome.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    who determines the number of properties?

    what if a landlord buys up 1000 properties and rents them out below market rates, is that systematic harm?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    who determines the number of properties?

    The number of properties is generally 1. You generally don't need to live in more than one house. If you're working in some kind of situation where that's absolutely necessary because you're staying in distant places for extended periods of time, you'd need some kind of special exception.

    Once everyone (or pretty much everyone, barring people who desire to live as nomads) owns a house, we can talk about letting people own vacation homes.

    what if a landlord buys up 1000 properties and rents them out below market rates, is that systematic harm?

    If they're making a profit, yes. If they aren't making a profit, no, but they won't be doing it for long unless they're getting funding from somewhere.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    yea… most of the time the cost of rent is lower then there houses market rate, and it still didn’t change anything about artificially raising that said rate. you didn’t change anything about the problem at all!

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    immigrants should just learn place and forever rent and be miserable and poor so they can joint the glorious proletariat revolution! not be evil greedy capitalists who want to provide for their kids!

    Immigrants can buy a home and live in it. There's nothing exploitative about that.

    If a person, regardless of their background, buys a property and makes profit off of charging rent for that property, the profit is extracted from the work that other people are actually doing. They're leeching off of others. This is simple, it doesn't depend on whether the landlord is a mom & pop landlord or if it's a giant private equity firm. Every dollar someone earns that they didn't work for is a dollar someone else worked for and didn't get to keep.

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