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[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago (6 children) remind me who won the Spanish Civil War permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago Anarchist experiment last longer than 4 years challenge: impossible permalink fedilink source parent [–] menas@lemmy.wtf -3 points 7 months ago (4 children) You point was : anarchist won't organize to change the economy. This is a counter example If you have argument, we could develop. You know, like marxists are supposed to do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (3 children) my point was anarchists don't think big and was in reference to modern anarchists in the West, not whatever anarchists 100 years ago in Spain were doing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] menas@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) IWW and ICL is definitely "thinking big". However this is not the main war western anarchists do organize. I do agree that their is an issue in organizing at bigger scale, including internationally. I don't know if this issue is bigger through anarchists movement than in population. We working to make this thing change. That's why I'm interested in constructive critics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) The only constructive criticism I can offer is to follow the examples set by Marxist-Leninist orgs but at that point you should probably just become Marxist-Leninists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] menas@lemmy.wtf 2 points 7 months ago I don't know any anarchists that would refuse a Marxist-Leninist analyse (but they do exists, I'm just not organized with those). In fact this is very common in the autonomous movement (formally "operaist"); I know this is different now, but back in the days, Maoists shared a lot of point of view and actions with anarchists and autonomous, and other not with party driven Marxist-Leninist organization. Their is a very specific marxist-leninist trend on *.ml that do not represents the diversities of those ideologies. Futhermore, their is a lot of ML comrade organizing in maxists, class-war or internationalist organisation with none ML people. Previous example ( CNT, ICL and the IWW ) have a strong strong marxists tradition. At that point, those differences seems not that big if we do try to have a revolutionary action (so a revolutionary and internal one); I agree that individualists approach are misleading. But with the rise of fascism, nationalists one seems very misleading too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago Anarchist experiment last longer than 4 years challenge: impossible permalink fedilink source parent
[–] menas@lemmy.wtf -3 points 7 months ago (4 children) You point was : anarchist won't organize to change the economy. This is a counter example If you have argument, we could develop. You know, like marxists are supposed to do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (3 children) my point was anarchists don't think big and was in reference to modern anarchists in the West, not whatever anarchists 100 years ago in Spain were doing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] menas@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) IWW and ICL is definitely "thinking big". However this is not the main war western anarchists do organize. I do agree that their is an issue in organizing at bigger scale, including internationally. I don't know if this issue is bigger through anarchists movement than in population. We working to make this thing change. That's why I'm interested in constructive critics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) The only constructive criticism I can offer is to follow the examples set by Marxist-Leninist orgs but at that point you should probably just become Marxist-Leninists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] menas@lemmy.wtf 2 points 7 months ago I don't know any anarchists that would refuse a Marxist-Leninist analyse (but they do exists, I'm just not organized with those). In fact this is very common in the autonomous movement (formally "operaist"); I know this is different now, but back in the days, Maoists shared a lot of point of view and actions with anarchists and autonomous, and other not with party driven Marxist-Leninist organization. Their is a very specific marxist-leninist trend on *.ml that do not represents the diversities of those ideologies. Futhermore, their is a lot of ML comrade organizing in maxists, class-war or internationalist organisation with none ML people. Previous example ( CNT, ICL and the IWW ) have a strong strong marxists tradition. At that point, those differences seems not that big if we do try to have a revolutionary action (so a revolutionary and internal one); I agree that individualists approach are misleading. But with the rise of fascism, nationalists one seems very misleading too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (3 children) my point was anarchists don't think big and was in reference to modern anarchists in the West, not whatever anarchists 100 years ago in Spain were doing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] menas@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) IWW and ICL is definitely "thinking big". However this is not the main war western anarchists do organize. I do agree that their is an issue in organizing at bigger scale, including internationally. I don't know if this issue is bigger through anarchists movement than in population. We working to make this thing change. That's why I'm interested in constructive critics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) The only constructive criticism I can offer is to follow the examples set by Marxist-Leninist orgs but at that point you should probably just become Marxist-Leninists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] menas@lemmy.wtf 2 points 7 months ago I don't know any anarchists that would refuse a Marxist-Leninist analyse (but they do exists, I'm just not organized with those). In fact this is very common in the autonomous movement (formally "operaist"); I know this is different now, but back in the days, Maoists shared a lot of point of view and actions with anarchists and autonomous, and other not with party driven Marxist-Leninist organization. Their is a very specific marxist-leninist trend on *.ml that do not represents the diversities of those ideologies. Futhermore, their is a lot of ML comrade organizing in maxists, class-war or internationalist organisation with none ML people. Previous example ( CNT, ICL and the IWW ) have a strong strong marxists tradition. At that point, those differences seems not that big if we do try to have a revolutionary action (so a revolutionary and internal one); I agree that individualists approach are misleading. But with the rise of fascism, nationalists one seems very misleading too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) IWW and ICL is definitely "thinking big". However this is not the main war western anarchists do organize. I do agree that their is an issue in organizing at bigger scale, including internationally. I don't know if this issue is bigger through anarchists movement than in population. We working to make this thing change. That's why I'm interested in constructive critics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) The only constructive criticism I can offer is to follow the examples set by Marxist-Leninist orgs but at that point you should probably just become Marxist-Leninists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] menas@lemmy.wtf 2 points 7 months ago I don't know any anarchists that would refuse a Marxist-Leninist analyse (but they do exists, I'm just not organized with those). In fact this is very common in the autonomous movement (formally "operaist"); I know this is different now, but back in the days, Maoists shared a lot of point of view and actions with anarchists and autonomous, and other not with party driven Marxist-Leninist organization. Their is a very specific marxist-leninist trend on *.ml that do not represents the diversities of those ideologies. Futhermore, their is a lot of ML comrade organizing in maxists, class-war or internationalist organisation with none ML people. Previous example ( CNT, ICL and the IWW ) have a strong strong marxists tradition. At that point, those differences seems not that big if we do try to have a revolutionary action (so a revolutionary and internal one); I agree that individualists approach are misleading. But with the rise of fascism, nationalists one seems very misleading too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) The only constructive criticism I can offer is to follow the examples set by Marxist-Leninist orgs but at that point you should probably just become Marxist-Leninists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] menas@lemmy.wtf 2 points 7 months ago I don't know any anarchists that would refuse a Marxist-Leninist analyse (but they do exists, I'm just not organized with those). In fact this is very common in the autonomous movement (formally "operaist"); I know this is different now, but back in the days, Maoists shared a lot of point of view and actions with anarchists and autonomous, and other not with party driven Marxist-Leninist organization. Their is a very specific marxist-leninist trend on *.ml that do not represents the diversities of those ideologies. Futhermore, their is a lot of ML comrade organizing in maxists, class-war or internationalist organisation with none ML people. Previous example ( CNT, ICL and the IWW ) have a strong strong marxists tradition. At that point, those differences seems not that big if we do try to have a revolutionary action (so a revolutionary and internal one); I agree that individualists approach are misleading. But with the rise of fascism, nationalists one seems very misleading too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 2 points 7 months ago I don't know any anarchists that would refuse a Marxist-Leninist analyse (but they do exists, I'm just not organized with those). In fact this is very common in the autonomous movement (formally "operaist"); I know this is different now, but back in the days, Maoists shared a lot of point of view and actions with anarchists and autonomous, and other not with party driven Marxist-Leninist organization. Their is a very specific marxist-leninist trend on *.ml that do not represents the diversities of those ideologies. Futhermore, their is a lot of ML comrade organizing in maxists, class-war or internationalist organisation with none ML people. Previous example ( CNT, ICL and the IWW ) have a strong strong marxists tradition. At that point, those differences seems not that big if we do try to have a revolutionary action (so a revolutionary and internal one); I agree that individualists approach are misleading. But with the rise of fascism, nationalists one seems very misleading too. permalink fedilink source parent
