▲ 197 ▼ Fun fact: you can't upload this image on piefed.social (thelemmy.club) submitted 7 months ago by irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 166 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/6405e51dab23f43eaea18d0ee4d9e7a773a3fd31/app/community/forms.py#L335 deliberately misleading error message.
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 13 points 7 months ago (14 children) Thorn fiasco? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 7 months ago (6 children) No, not because a user was annoying everyone else. Because the developer seemed to have a personal beef against people who commit the crime of [*checks notes*] not behaving neurotypically on the internet, and went on to impose a collonialistic, imperialistic punishment (censoring of national language) on them. See: Spain vs. Cataluña. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 9 points 7 months ago* (5 children) This is a really dramatic observation. The user did it specifically, if I recall, to try and evade AI detection or something. It's also amusing because said user itself is literally on a piefed instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Oh yeah, they made a statement about to "inconvenience AIs somewhat", which is not bad and is something that honestly more of us should be doing. The conformists claim that AIs can easily deal with such annoyances but that's the point. They still have to do the work, and we can poison the meaning of the data they collect (intentionally or incidentally), kinda like what happened with AIs suddenly starting to use em dashes for everything. All that said, none of that merits the kind of backend-level censorship that was applied to that user. How can I trust a platform that offers a certain level of trust if my messages are being altered behind my back? How can I be sure that my statement anti AI are not being modded into pro-AI statements, for example? Even more if I'm being specifically targetted? Rimu simply does not, currently, offer that kind of trust of person, which is one of the reasons I've made no effort, nor plan to in the short term, into piefed as of yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) It was direct character change into "th" which is what they used it for - it wasn't designed to change the meaning of a message, moreover the user wasn't doing it because they are neurodivergent (as you alleged previously). Although someone did note here that, as far as it is, the letter is part of Icelandic - so in that sense it was misguided. Also, Piefed literally has (rudimentary, perhaps) flags for potential AI accounts that are forwarded onto instance mods if they choose to activate it. Rimu is not likely to bake in any pro-AI sentiment into the system when he's building tools to try and detect it with an eye on banning potential AI-run accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) I was using the pro/anti AI as an example but the point is, Piefed already has a history of editorioalizing user discourse secrelty and for the benefit (or whininess) of the dev. I could have used eg.: pro/anti shipping, or pro/anti consumerism instead. The point is the reputation is hard to earn back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago It's not really editorialising anything here. It doesn't change the meaning of anything. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 7 months ago (5 children) That sounds like a great feature ngl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children) Indeed, Icelanders shouldn't be allowed to use their language on fediverse. English only or gtfo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Mámate esta con tu inglés exclusivo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) I only support the inclusion of the feature if there's also an option to convert all ths into thorns. Fair is fair. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago Which would appropriate for a client-side user-level filter instead of a server-side instance-admin hard-coded setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 7 months ago (6 children) No, not because a user was annoying everyone else. Because the developer seemed to have a personal beef against people who commit the crime of [*checks notes*] not behaving neurotypically on the internet, and went on to impose a collonialistic, imperialistic punishment (censoring of national language) on them. See: Spain vs. Cataluña. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 9 points 7 months ago* (5 children) This is a really dramatic observation. The user did it specifically, if I recall, to try and evade AI detection or something. It's also amusing because said user itself is literally on a piefed instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Oh yeah, they made a statement about to "inconvenience AIs somewhat", which is not bad and is something that honestly more of us should be doing. The conformists claim that AIs can easily deal with such annoyances but that's the point. They still have to do the work, and we can poison the meaning of the data they collect (intentionally or incidentally), kinda like what happened with AIs suddenly starting to use em dashes for everything. All that said, none of that merits the kind of backend-level censorship that was applied to that user. How can I trust a platform that offers a certain level of trust if my messages are being altered behind my back? How can I be sure that my statement anti AI are not being modded into pro-AI statements, for example? Even more if I'm being specifically targetted? Rimu simply does not, currently, offer that kind of trust of person, which is one of the reasons I've made no effort, nor plan to in the short term, into piefed as of yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) It was direct character change into "th" which is what they used it for - it wasn't designed to change the meaning of a message, moreover the user wasn't doing it because they are neurodivergent (as you alleged previously). Although someone did note here that, as far as it is, the letter is part of Icelandic - so in that sense it was misguided. Also, Piefed literally has (rudimentary, perhaps) flags for potential AI accounts that are forwarded onto instance mods if they choose to activate it. Rimu is not likely to bake in any pro-AI sentiment into the system when he's building tools to try and detect it with an eye on banning potential AI-run accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) I was using the pro/anti AI as an example but the point is, Piefed already has a history of editorioalizing user discourse secrelty and for the benefit (or whininess) of the dev. I could have used eg.: pro/anti shipping, or pro/anti consumerism instead. The point is the reputation is hard to earn back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago It's not really editorialising anything here. It doesn't change the meaning of anything. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 7 months ago (5 children) That sounds like a great feature ngl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children) Indeed, Icelanders shouldn't be allowed to use their language on fediverse. English only or gtfo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Mámate esta con tu inglés exclusivo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) I only support the inclusion of the feature if there's also an option to convert all ths into thorns. Fair is fair. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago Which would appropriate for a client-side user-level filter instead of a server-side instance-admin hard-coded setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 7 months ago (6 children) No, not because a user was annoying everyone else. Because the developer seemed to have a personal beef against people who commit the crime of [*checks notes*] not behaving neurotypically on the internet, and went on to impose a collonialistic, imperialistic punishment (censoring of national language) on them. See: Spain vs. Cataluña. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 9 points 7 months ago* (5 children) This is a really dramatic observation. The user did it specifically, if I recall, to try and evade AI detection or something. It's also amusing because said user itself is literally on a piefed instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Oh yeah, they made a statement about to "inconvenience AIs somewhat", which is not bad and is something that honestly more of us should be doing. The conformists claim that AIs can easily deal with such annoyances but that's the point. They still have to do the work, and we can poison the meaning of the data they collect (intentionally or incidentally), kinda like what happened with AIs suddenly starting to use em dashes for everything. All that said, none of that merits the kind of backend-level censorship that was applied to that user. How can I trust a platform that offers a certain level of trust if my messages are being altered behind my back? How can I be sure that my statement anti AI are not being modded into pro-AI statements, for example? Even more if I'm being specifically targetted? Rimu simply does not, currently, offer that kind of trust of person, which is one of the reasons I've made no effort, nor plan to in the short term, into piefed as of yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) It was direct character change into "th" which is what they used it for - it wasn't designed to change the meaning of a message, moreover the user wasn't doing it because they are neurodivergent (as you alleged previously). Although someone did note here that, as far as it is, the letter is part of Icelandic - so in that sense it was misguided. Also, Piefed literally has (rudimentary, perhaps) flags for potential AI accounts that are forwarded onto instance mods if they choose to activate it. Rimu is not likely to bake in any pro-AI sentiment into the system when he's building tools to try and detect it with an eye on banning potential AI-run accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) I was using the pro/anti AI as an example but the point is, Piefed already has a history of editorioalizing user discourse secrelty and for the benefit (or whininess) of the dev. I could have used eg.: pro/anti shipping, or pro/anti consumerism instead. The point is the reputation is hard to earn back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago It's not really editorialising anything here. It doesn't change the meaning of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skavau@piefed.social 9 points 7 months ago* (5 children) This is a really dramatic observation. The user did it specifically, if I recall, to try and evade AI detection or something. It's also amusing because said user itself is literally on a piefed instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Oh yeah, they made a statement about to "inconvenience AIs somewhat", which is not bad and is something that honestly more of us should be doing. The conformists claim that AIs can easily deal with such annoyances but that's the point. They still have to do the work, and we can poison the meaning of the data they collect (intentionally or incidentally), kinda like what happened with AIs suddenly starting to use em dashes for everything. All that said, none of that merits the kind of backend-level censorship that was applied to that user. How can I trust a platform that offers a certain level of trust if my messages are being altered behind my back? How can I be sure that my statement anti AI are not being modded into pro-AI statements, for example? Even more if I'm being specifically targetted? Rimu simply does not, currently, offer that kind of trust of person, which is one of the reasons I've made no effort, nor plan to in the short term, into piefed as of yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) It was direct character change into "th" which is what they used it for - it wasn't designed to change the meaning of a message, moreover the user wasn't doing it because they are neurodivergent (as you alleged previously). Although someone did note here that, as far as it is, the letter is part of Icelandic - so in that sense it was misguided. Also, Piefed literally has (rudimentary, perhaps) flags for potential AI accounts that are forwarded onto instance mods if they choose to activate it. Rimu is not likely to bake in any pro-AI sentiment into the system when he's building tools to try and detect it with an eye on banning potential AI-run accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) I was using the pro/anti AI as an example but the point is, Piefed already has a history of editorioalizing user discourse secrelty and for the benefit (or whininess) of the dev. I could have used eg.: pro/anti shipping, or pro/anti consumerism instead. The point is the reputation is hard to earn back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago It's not really editorialising anything here. It doesn't change the meaning of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Oh yeah, they made a statement about to "inconvenience AIs somewhat", which is not bad and is something that honestly more of us should be doing. The conformists claim that AIs can easily deal with such annoyances but that's the point. They still have to do the work, and we can poison the meaning of the data they collect (intentionally or incidentally), kinda like what happened with AIs suddenly starting to use em dashes for everything. All that said, none of that merits the kind of backend-level censorship that was applied to that user. How can I trust a platform that offers a certain level of trust if my messages are being altered behind my back? How can I be sure that my statement anti AI are not being modded into pro-AI statements, for example? Even more if I'm being specifically targetted? Rimu simply does not, currently, offer that kind of trust of person, which is one of the reasons I've made no effort, nor plan to in the short term, into piefed as of yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) It was direct character change into "th" which is what they used it for - it wasn't designed to change the meaning of a message, moreover the user wasn't doing it because they are neurodivergent (as you alleged previously). Although someone did note here that, as far as it is, the letter is part of Icelandic - so in that sense it was misguided. Also, Piefed literally has (rudimentary, perhaps) flags for potential AI accounts that are forwarded onto instance mods if they choose to activate it. Rimu is not likely to bake in any pro-AI sentiment into the system when he's building tools to try and detect it with an eye on banning potential AI-run accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) I was using the pro/anti AI as an example but the point is, Piefed already has a history of editorioalizing user discourse secrelty and for the benefit (or whininess) of the dev. I could have used eg.: pro/anti shipping, or pro/anti consumerism instead. The point is the reputation is hard to earn back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago It's not really editorialising anything here. It doesn't change the meaning of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) It was direct character change into "th" which is what they used it for - it wasn't designed to change the meaning of a message, moreover the user wasn't doing it because they are neurodivergent (as you alleged previously). Although someone did note here that, as far as it is, the letter is part of Icelandic - so in that sense it was misguided. Also, Piefed literally has (rudimentary, perhaps) flags for potential AI accounts that are forwarded onto instance mods if they choose to activate it. Rimu is not likely to bake in any pro-AI sentiment into the system when he's building tools to try and detect it with an eye on banning potential AI-run accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) I was using the pro/anti AI as an example but the point is, Piefed already has a history of editorioalizing user discourse secrelty and for the benefit (or whininess) of the dev. I could have used eg.: pro/anti shipping, or pro/anti consumerism instead. The point is the reputation is hard to earn back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago It's not really editorialising anything here. It doesn't change the meaning of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) I was using the pro/anti AI as an example but the point is, Piefed already has a history of editorioalizing user discourse secrelty and for the benefit (or whininess) of the dev. I could have used eg.: pro/anti shipping, or pro/anti consumerism instead. The point is the reputation is hard to earn back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago It's not really editorialising anything here. It doesn't change the meaning of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago It's not really editorialising anything here. It doesn't change the meaning of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 7 months ago (5 children) That sounds like a great feature ngl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children) Indeed, Icelanders shouldn't be allowed to use their language on fediverse. English only or gtfo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Mámate esta con tu inglés exclusivo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) I only support the inclusion of the feature if there's also an option to convert all ths into thorns. Fair is fair. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago Which would appropriate for a client-side user-level filter instead of a server-side instance-admin hard-coded setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children) Indeed, Icelanders shouldn't be allowed to use their language on fediverse. English only or gtfo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Mámate esta con tu inglés exclusivo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Mámate esta con tu inglés exclusivo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) I only support the inclusion of the feature if there's also an option to convert all ths into thorns. Fair is fair. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago Which would appropriate for a client-side user-level filter instead of a server-side instance-admin hard-coded setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago Which would appropriate for a client-side user-level filter instead of a server-side instance-admin hard-coded setting. permalink fedilink source parent