I'm sick and tired of a way too vocal minority on this site pretending that Trump is "at least better on foreign policy than the Dems"

Yeah, this is one of the worst takes I see frequently on here. I think it's a mix of terminally-online contrarianism and anti-lib contrarianism. It's trolling libs with (generously) an intent to have them consider how close both parties are on foreign policy. But they mostly miss that point, because no one gets subtext and we're staking out a bad position ourselves, so it comes across as uninformed or confusing (do these communists support Trump??).

The good things Trump did (detente with the DPRK, attempted Syria withdrawal) are due to dumb luck and are easily undermined by NatSec ghouls/subsequent administrations. The they are offset, at least, by the bad things he did (a complete 180 on Iran, taking us to the brink of war multiple times), which were also due to dumb luck, but which are much harder to undo.

I don't see a lot of people arguing that trump isn't as bad as Biden. The argument I see (and one I subscribe to myself) is that Biden is better at being bad. They're both horrible ghouls that would murder a child for a nickel, and they can at best be said to be indifferent about various causes.
The argument is that Trump was incompetent. While he attempted to suppress minorites in the US he saw massive nationwide demonstrations in response. He tried to antagonize Iran, but failed to escalate the situation to anything that didn't just make him look foolish and wasted precious US resources. Attempts like seizing Iranian tankers were widely condemned, which caused further cracks in US soft power. The world as a whole started to distance itself - The Korea's started peace negotiations without the us, and South America turned leftward. His needling in Venezuela failed, his coup in Bolivia was overturned and the US stooge that was got kicked out after a short while, to be replaced with .
It's not that he didn't attempt these things, it's that he failed. Meanwhile Biden has seen the overturning of Roe v Wade, increases in transphobic laws with little to no resistance from the general us population, and a war in Europe that put the place at its heel. He escalated tensions with china early on and elsewhere the meddling of the American empire can once again be felt.

Trump is not good and definitely hawkish is every way, but at this point it is no longer deniable that Biden has crossed the line that perhaps most American presidents wouldn’t dare to cross.

Trump liked to pretend to be a master businessman by persuading the Europeans to spend 4% of their GDP into defense, only to be laughed at. Biden literally started a war and forced Europe into austerity to pay for their defense spending (while killing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians at the same time).

Trump tried to persuade Merkel to build LNG terminals to get rid of Europe’s Russian gas dependency. The project eventually went nowhere because nobody took him seriously. Biden literally bombed their gas pipeline and ended European prosperity for the century (yes, the European economy is a dead zone now. It is not going to come back for a long time).

Trump started petty trade wars with China, which were reciprocated proportionally by the Chinese. Biden literally started a tech sanction against China that has no proportional response, and ended the friendly relationship between US and China. There is no reconciliation between the two at this point.

Biden raised the interest rates to 5% in one year and plunged many countries into famine and energy shortage, exacerbating debt crisis across the developing world. Hundreds of millions of people (if not billions) in the Global South are literally suffering to slow the decline of the US Empire.

These are the lines that I doubt even Obama would dare to cross. Whether you like it or not, Biden seems very keen on setting the world on fire and starting fights with the entire world. And he might very well win, that’s the scariest part.

Trump said better things to a camera because he is a serial liar and will say anything that sounds good at the time regardless of previous statements or intent.

It's a straight up reactionary position to imply, in any way, that the fascist is the best option.

Don't worry, I'm not voting for Trump. Anything Trump did that was "better" was only because he was incompetent.

That's only because Iran and Palestine aren't nuclear powers. Go look up Trump's policy towards them, you may learn a thing or two.

Well yeah, thats exactly my point. From a moral perspective, Trump is every bit as abominable as any other US president in every way and worse in many ways. That being as it is, the stakes of his morally repugnant behavior were much lower because he wasn't constantly trying to ratchet up tensions with Russia and China into war, at least to the degree that Biden has. Yeah Trump treated Palestine and Iran like shit, buy nobody can reasonably say that's going to lead to WWII.

I agree with everything you said in your second paragraph too. Trump is an absolute peice of shit. However the current piece of shit in the White House is driving the world towards nuclear war in a way that the previous one wasn't, at least to nearly the same degree.

sick and tired of a way too vocal minority on this site pretending that Trump is "at least better on foreign policy than the Dems" because you like his aesthetics better than Biden's.

Nowhere in my post did I say or suggest that Trump is "better on foreign policy". I called upon Dems to recognize that Biden's foreign policy is drawing the world closer to nuclear Armageddon than those of Trump's. I'd have absolutely no basis to say anything I've said if Biden's foreign policy was substantially better than Trump's, but like you said both parties are two sides of the same coin. You accuse me of engaging in "lesser evilism" and maybe you're right. Shitty American foreign policy that does not lead to nuclear war is the lesser evil of shitty American foreign policy that does lead to nuclear war.

You cannot vote your way out of the genocidal foreign policy of the USA. It is bipartisan consensus and you're simply falling for the RepubliKKKan ruse that gives you the illusion of "some amount of choice" on this matter.

Nowhere in my post did I mean to imply that the solution is to vote. I'm not American, my votes don't matter anyway. Like you said, I cannot vote to opt out of my country being targeted at repeated American provocations against our sovereignty. The onus is on you, the Americans, to do something about your genocidal foreign policies.