▲ 909 ▼ History will not be kind to the USA (lemmy.ml) submitted 8 months ago by hamid@crazypeople.online to c/memes@lemmy.ml 305 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] figjam@midwest.social 35 points 8 months ago (7 children) Cool, can we fast forward to the hangings pls? permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (5 children) Another thing we can accuse the US and their UK poodles of it's only hanging a handful of nazis for show in their Nurenberg showtrials. (if that's what you're referring to) They gave the vast majority of nazis all the help they needed escaping to S-America, Canada, etc.. Or simply forgave them and left them in high positions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 18 points 8 months ago* (4 children) Operation Paperclip brought over 1600 Germans including many Nazi scientists and leadership into the US to provide engineering for the US military and politically engineer the 50 year fascist project starting with Dulles and solidifying total control under W Bush. The CIA which was created by merging the OSS with literal Nazi's had the leader of the agency George Bush Sr, become president. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children) I'm tired of hearing about this as if it was the only one. It's what they call a limited hangout. Everyone knows it and it's somewhat understandable from a pragmatic standpoint. US/UK took effort to let them surrender to their western friends since the Russians would give the their deserved reward. After which plenty somehow vanished. And almost nobody knows about the ratlines, set up by the west to let all the other nazis escape. Among them mass murderers like Klaus Barbie, Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Croatian Dictator Ante Pavelić, and Léon Degrelle. And masses of low rank war criminals, the worst of the worst, including 1000's of SS division Galizien from Ukraine. Shipped to the UK and then got relocated with new names in Canada. Their offspring still very active and with the same despicable ideology. The Hunka incident is not a coincidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 12 points 8 months ago* (2 children) I don't think it is understandable to bring Nazi leadership into your country and allow them to develop a military 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago not for us 'normal' people. But the Paperclip were useful to them, that's why it can be seen as an understandable excuse. The rest certainly not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago The "understandable" veneer is that they were all apolitical scientists who only wanted to do more science. Of course that's not true, but that's how it's taught in schools. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -10 points 8 months ago Won't matter. I rather see a Cyberpunk2077 future happening permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (5 children) Another thing we can accuse the US and their UK poodles of it's only hanging a handful of nazis for show in their Nurenberg showtrials. (if that's what you're referring to) They gave the vast majority of nazis all the help they needed escaping to S-America, Canada, etc.. Or simply forgave them and left them in high positions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 18 points 8 months ago* (4 children) Operation Paperclip brought over 1600 Germans including many Nazi scientists and leadership into the US to provide engineering for the US military and politically engineer the 50 year fascist project starting with Dulles and solidifying total control under W Bush. The CIA which was created by merging the OSS with literal Nazi's had the leader of the agency George Bush Sr, become president. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children) I'm tired of hearing about this as if it was the only one. It's what they call a limited hangout. Everyone knows it and it's somewhat understandable from a pragmatic standpoint. US/UK took effort to let them surrender to their western friends since the Russians would give the their deserved reward. After which plenty somehow vanished. And almost nobody knows about the ratlines, set up by the west to let all the other nazis escape. Among them mass murderers like Klaus Barbie, Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Croatian Dictator Ante Pavelić, and Léon Degrelle. And masses of low rank war criminals, the worst of the worst, including 1000's of SS division Galizien from Ukraine. Shipped to the UK and then got relocated with new names in Canada. Their offspring still very active and with the same despicable ideology. The Hunka incident is not a coincidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 12 points 8 months ago* (2 children) I don't think it is understandable to bring Nazi leadership into your country and allow them to develop a military 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago not for us 'normal' people. But the Paperclip were useful to them, that's why it can be seen as an understandable excuse. The rest certainly not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago The "understandable" veneer is that they were all apolitical scientists who only wanted to do more science. Of course that's not true, but that's how it's taught in schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 18 points 8 months ago* (4 children) Operation Paperclip brought over 1600 Germans including many Nazi scientists and leadership into the US to provide engineering for the US military and politically engineer the 50 year fascist project starting with Dulles and solidifying total control under W Bush. The CIA which was created by merging the OSS with literal Nazi's had the leader of the agency George Bush Sr, become president. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children) I'm tired of hearing about this as if it was the only one. It's what they call a limited hangout. Everyone knows it and it's somewhat understandable from a pragmatic standpoint. US/UK took effort to let them surrender to their western friends since the Russians would give the their deserved reward. After which plenty somehow vanished. And almost nobody knows about the ratlines, set up by the west to let all the other nazis escape. Among them mass murderers like Klaus Barbie, Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Croatian Dictator Ante Pavelić, and Léon Degrelle. And masses of low rank war criminals, the worst of the worst, including 1000's of SS division Galizien from Ukraine. Shipped to the UK and then got relocated with new names in Canada. Their offspring still very active and with the same despicable ideology. The Hunka incident is not a coincidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 12 points 8 months ago* (2 children) I don't think it is understandable to bring Nazi leadership into your country and allow them to develop a military 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago not for us 'normal' people. But the Paperclip were useful to them, that's why it can be seen as an understandable excuse. The rest certainly not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago The "understandable" veneer is that they were all apolitical scientists who only wanted to do more science. Of course that's not true, but that's how it's taught in schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children) I'm tired of hearing about this as if it was the only one. It's what they call a limited hangout. Everyone knows it and it's somewhat understandable from a pragmatic standpoint. US/UK took effort to let them surrender to their western friends since the Russians would give the their deserved reward. After which plenty somehow vanished. And almost nobody knows about the ratlines, set up by the west to let all the other nazis escape. Among them mass murderers like Klaus Barbie, Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Croatian Dictator Ante Pavelić, and Léon Degrelle. And masses of low rank war criminals, the worst of the worst, including 1000's of SS division Galizien from Ukraine. Shipped to the UK and then got relocated with new names in Canada. Their offspring still very active and with the same despicable ideology. The Hunka incident is not a coincidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 12 points 8 months ago* (2 children) I don't think it is understandable to bring Nazi leadership into your country and allow them to develop a military 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago not for us 'normal' people. But the Paperclip were useful to them, that's why it can be seen as an understandable excuse. The rest certainly not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago The "understandable" veneer is that they were all apolitical scientists who only wanted to do more science. Of course that's not true, but that's how it's taught in schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 12 points 8 months ago* (2 children) I don't think it is understandable to bring Nazi leadership into your country and allow them to develop a military 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago not for us 'normal' people. But the Paperclip were useful to them, that's why it can be seen as an understandable excuse. The rest certainly not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago The "understandable" veneer is that they were all apolitical scientists who only wanted to do more science. Of course that's not true, but that's how it's taught in schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago not for us 'normal' people. But the Paperclip were useful to them, that's why it can be seen as an understandable excuse. The rest certainly not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago The "understandable" veneer is that they were all apolitical scientists who only wanted to do more science. Of course that's not true, but that's how it's taught in schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -10 points 8 months ago Won't matter. I rather see a Cyberpunk2077 future happening permalink fedilink source parent