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Valve amended the Steam survey for December 2025 - Linux actually hit another all-time high (www.gamingonlinux.com)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world
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[–] 53 points 9 months ago (21 children)

Seems kinda crazy to me that Windows is still so dominant after all the shitty stuff MS has done.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    As someone who semi-recently made the jump (june) to linux, you need a lot of time to do it, even for something that would seem trivial to an experienced user like going to mint. Most people don't have the time to do something like that. New systems built by curious nerds will probably be where linux gets most of its new users. (so it's a shame no one can afford to build one)

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    I've installed Windows on thousands of machines and IMO, major Linux distros are usually easier to set up for home use but I say that having used both for a good amount of time, so my opinion is definitely biased compared to someone who doesn't really use computers.

    I would argue though, where Linux really shines is old systems, much like the many that MS chose to drop support for in Windows 11. There's a pretty decent chance that the bullshit going on with RAM and drives might actually further drive Linux adoption as people try to get more out of their existing machines or old used\refurbished machines that they can actually afford (which Linux runs great on, unlike Windows).

    Time will tell though...

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    It doesn't really matter which is easier to install because only a very small percentage of people are comfortable with installing an OS of any kind. The vast majority of people just keep whatever OS was pre-installed. 99% of the time that's Windows or MacOS.

    Hopefully 2026 brings some more mainstream options to buy computers with Linux pre-installed. I think that's unlikely though, other than Steam OS for some handhelds and Valve's new hardware.

    It would be great if Lenovo or Dell or others prominently featured Linux options to try to capitalize on all the Microsoft hate. I know they already sell some Ubuntu options but they aren't featured or advertised. I suspect they are afraid of pissing off Microsoft.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Dell definitely has an option for Ubuntu as a default install, but it's definitely not the norm. Not sure about Lenovo, but I can tell you Linux runs great on Thinkpads (my daily driver is a T14 with Cinnamon Mint).

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  • [+] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    Only with certain models, sadly. Mine was not available with anything but W10 Pro, 3y ago. Zero support for Linux.

    Also linux support for cellular models is atrocious, so I had to go with (k)ubuntu, even though I didn't want to. Even then, it was more difficult than it should have been (didn't work out of the box). Everything else worked fine on all distros and flavors I checked, but none else got the modem working (eventually).

    But also, after that TP and then buying and returning two more (known cooling issues that Lenovo denies, and a custom build that they didn't activate or provide a key for W10 Pro!), they will have to give me a free, top-tier machine to potentially get me as a customer again. Cs was nice but everything else is a dumpster fire.

    The TP is on its second battery too - the first was replaced after 6 weeks. I never left the house with it, and yet it went from 3h to 20m capacity in that amount of time. The replacement did the same thing...

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Up until more recently, all the shitty shit they did only affected people with more computer knowledge than how to open the browser and use google.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Most users don't know how to enter a url any other way than to search for the site name and click on the most likely result.

    I don't see those people installing Linux (or anything else, for that matter) any time soon.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

    I think most users, given enough motivation, could definitely figure out how to install a distro from scratch especially for something like Ubuntu or Mint.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    You're much more optimistic than I am. Maybe I've spent too much time with users who are usually scared of clicking on an unknown button, because after all, who knows what could happen if they click on "ok"?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    I've spent shitloads of time with users (did stints at repair shops, MSP, desktop support, and analyst stuff), but even the most ignorant, careless user could probably get through installing Linux if they really wanted to.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    But that kind of user typically won't want to because it's much too scary.

    Of course it's trivial to install Linux, you just have to click "next" five times or so.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Realistically what'll happen is these users will start hunting for alternatives. If Linux gains enough enthusiast marketshare, more small local IT companies will feel comfortable just handing folks an old PC loaded with Linux, more computer shops will directly support Linux and this will chip away at the norm. Eventually if such a trend continues for long enough folks will start asking for it "yeah my last computer had oombootoo on it instead of Microsoft. Do they still make that? Can you get me one of them oombootoo computers?"

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