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I didn't realize my LG TV was spying on me until I turned off this setting (www.pocket-lint.com)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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Smart TVs with an internet connection: Lets grab screenshots and send them to cooperate analysis advertisement department.

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[–] 91 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

It can't send screen shots if it doesn't connect to the internet. I own an LG TV and it's never been connected to a network.

For those of you who need it:

  1. Press the Settings button on your remote (the gear icon).

  2. When the side menu pops up, select Settings.

  3. Choose the General option.

  4. Scroll down and select System.

5, Select Additional Settings.

  1. Toggle Live Plus off.
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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Plenty of TVs are capable of radioing your neighbour's TV and piggybacking off their internet connection, so if it's not in a Faraday cage, it might be overconfident to say it's never been connected to a network.

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Source on this?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Not OP, but I have heard that some smart TVs do automatically join open networks. Whether it's true or not, I can't say.

    But if it is true, I would imagine it would vary between manufacturers and even specific device models.

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  • [+] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)
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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    This sounds just like when my family member tell me that their phones are “listening to what they say” because they talk about something and then see an advertisement for it.

    No, you’re seeing the ad because you googled it and forgot that you did. Or someone else on the house did.

    Edit: Morons. If your phone listened to you for ads the battery would be dead in hours. More so than they do now.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Automatically joining open networks is a feature built into many devices, this is simply alleging that some TVs come with it enabled by default..

    Also, that is a real feature that some advertising company's offer to their clients:

    https://www.404media.co/heres-the-pitch-deck-for-active-listening-ad-targeting/

    Sounds like you owe some of your family members an apology.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Pitch deck does not mean it’s in active use. Just like filing a patent doesn’t mean the company is going to implement the patented idea.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I have never had a device join an open network by itself.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    And of the several hundred, or thousands, of smart TV models available, how many have you owned?

    Of the tens of thousands of IoT devices available, how many have you owned?

    Just trying to figure out the sample size that you based your statement on.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    ...you're so far behind the times, it's comical. Yes, there are microphones around you transmitting the shit you say (or at least sentiment markers from it). Absolutely insane that there are people who don't believe this today.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    A couple of years back, my sister and I were talking of buying some seeds for my mom, who's an avid gardener. Neither of us had looked anything up. Next things we browsed on our phones, unrelated to the subject, we were served a bunch of gardening ads.

    Pretty damning evidence, if you ask me.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You're going to need to provide some evidence for such a claim. That doesn't even sound legal.

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  • [–] 40 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Not OP but I think this guy is remembering a scene from silicon valley, not from reality. That said it's probably not that far off. Amazon smart devices absolutely have this "feature" in production today-- and it's opt-out, not opt-in.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago

    Thanks for that. Just another reason to be glad I've banned any Amazon devices in my house. It's already insane enough to me that people literally have to think before they speak in their own homes to avoid accidentally triggering the always-listening robo-creepy-spy in the next room.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    Interesting. But my house basically is a faraday cage. I have no signal outside it from my wifi or any of the others because of the way they were constructed. I have to have wifi repeaters indoors and a mobile repeater setup to get cell coverage inside.

    So I guess I'm lucky in that respect.

    But all in all this is good information for people to know including me. Thanks for that.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    I also have an LG TV that I do not connect to the internet. How have you solved the problem of it frequently harassing you to recalibrate the screen, and connect to the internet?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    I haven't but that's probably because I don't use it to do anything that would require that. Like. Everything (switching inputs, volume etc) is handled by my receiver. The devices that are hooked up to the receiver all have their settings on device.

    It may also depend on what firmware your TV came with and what model you have?

    Sorry I can't be more help.

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