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Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 loses Game of the Year from the Indie Game Awards (www.xda-developers.com)
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Clair Obscur won multiple awards but used generative AI art as placeholders during production.

The Indie Game Awards revoked Clair Obscur’s Debut and Game of the Year after the AI disclosure.

IGAs reassigned the awards (Blue Prince, Sorry We’re Closed) and reignited debate on gen-AI use.

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[+] -7 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Because they thought they didn’t and found out 3 year old in-house AI test assets ended up in the release version. And promptly replaced them with the actual art done by their own actual artists, the ones who did the AI experiment.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    That's fine, but they did use AI in development, so whether or not they removed the assets they should not be included in this award category.

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  • [+] -6 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    You do acknowledge that “using AI during development” is a massive thing to ban games for.

    How can they check for that in the future?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    it’s irrelevant whether you agree with the rule or not… the award is for games that didn’t use AI during development. the game should not have originally been in contention for the award

    i tend to agree this is the right way to use AI assets, but this isn’t the award for them… it doesn’t matter if it was accidental, if it was removed before release, or anything else

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Yes it’s their rule. It’s a stupid rule.

    But how do they intend to police said rule in the future? Since it clearly isn’t just for released art assets but THE WHOLE PROCESS.

    If it’s just self reported what’s the point?

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    that’s all irrelevant though… the rule is the rule and they got caught

    people should be allowed to have awards for games which only use humans, and if a game is caught cheating they should be disqualified

    if they want to compete for some awards, these aren’t the awards for them: there are others

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yes yes. They used AI, they lost the award. I’m over it. Next topic:

    How do they (indie awards) enforce this in the future? Please read, understand and explain:

    The rules say no AI can be used in ANY stage of the development for ANYTHING. How do they check it? Where do they draw the line? Is it just art assets? Voices? Code?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You know, any studio today that cares about winning the indie award as much as you seem to would probably just ask the award coordinators for clarification.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    TBH this is the first time I heard about these awards 😅

    My flavour of neurospicy just doesn’t understand vague rules with massive issues with how to interpret them.

    So you’re perfectly fine with vague rules like that?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    That would make a lot of sense.

    Scientific fields obviously put a lot of effort into tackling this problem, but philosophically, it is not possible to be specific enough to do away with vagueness. At some point, you have to use language like "a reasonable person" and just leave judges to interpret the spirit of what's being restricted.

    So you’re perfectly fine with vague rules like that?

    Yes. I don't even feel it's that vague.

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